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Sweden to outlaw peer-to-peer file swapping

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• rpeckhoff

  Well what can u do.

  30.7.2003 14:41 #1

• Rodgers

  I guess in the case of Sweden, it will be back to inductive recordings from radio, like the good old days.Best to All!
  Rodgers

  30.7.2003 14:56 #2

• unwanted

  Unlucky Swedes
  

  "Save the music Ya'll"

  30.7.2003 15:03 #3

• seanbyrne

  If this outlaws Peer-to-peer file swapping in General, it will in turn outlaw filesharing on Local Area Networks, i.e. sharing your files or documents using Windows' built in sharing may be illegal in this case!
  
  These new laws are seriously getting out of hand and are really there to just help the music industry. They are only boasting that it helps artists to make it easier to pass the laws. The Government should have tried other techniques such as force low price fixing, etc. first and only introduce a law as a last resort :(

  30.7.2003 15:35 #4

• LIVE4DVD

  This is a bunch of crap. The Music industry just keeps shooting itself in the foot. By the time they realize how angry they have made the consumers buying their products, it will be too late. People will swap music any way they can. They cannot stop it.
  
  All they can do is continue to alienate the very people who buy their music, us!!!
  
  If they start putting people in prison for downloading a song, then I think most people will have lost what little respect they have left for our legal system!
  
  
  

  30.7.2003 16:02 #5

• Oriphus

  This is actually very interesting. For example, say you are connected remotely to an office and use a peer-to-peer system to transfer yur fiels. Do they consider this a form of peer-to-peer, because it is. They cant just outlaw it like that, it wont work. Say i want to send a file to my friend, they will have no way of stoppping me. I think it will be based more at the companies like Kazaa, not the IRC type systems.
  

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  30.7.2003 17:31 #6

• rocky999

  Some day, someone is going to organize a campaign where everyone in a country boycotts the record stores. If everyone stopped buying ANY cds for a period of say 1 or 2 months, all of this would change.

  31.7.2003 04:35 #7

• Obike

  If only polititions had balls and stopped taking back handers from big corporations we wouldt have all these problems. Well maybe some of them but not as many as we have. Im just glad i dont live in sweden. It bound to happen here sometime tho.

  31.7.2003 05:12 #8

• GrayArea

  Making alcoholic beverages illegal worked great for the USA…
  

  We mustn't lower ourselves to the level of those we loathe, lest we become loathsome ourselves.
  

  31.7.2003 11:06 #9

• Dela

  ah well! givernments dont have a clue, so they should just go away, stay away from the net u assholes!
  

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  31.7.2003 12:48 #10

• Toiletman

  Fuck them as well. We should add this to the anti-RIAA board.
  

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  31.7.2003 15:15 #11

• Amakuza_8

  It is politics games.blaa..blaaa,blaa...governments are always lied.

  31.7.2003 20:39 #12

• vFreak

  "Distributing or downloading illegal copies on P2P networks can lead to a sentence of up to two years in prison."
  
  2 Years!!!? Is that not unbelievably out of proportion to the "crime"? Seems like they're taking knee-jerk draconian measures to try and stop the over-bloated corporate record companies from making less obscene amounts of cash from churning out mindless dirge!

  1.8.2003 02:16 #13

• Dela

  lovely the way they are trying to turn their voters into criminals aint it! :-)
  

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  1.8.2003 02:19 #14

• ICEPIMP

  These laws ar so damn stupid!!! They dont work! no one will follow them! Its like telleing everybody not to go over 65mph on the highway, and then expect everyone to do so the next morning.. 80% of the people drive over 65 and the same 80% goes for the people who dont give a flying fu*k about these laws!!
  
  JUST BECAUSE OF THIS IM GOIN TO START BRAKING MORE LAWS AND SHARE EVEN MORE FILES, DOWNLOAD MORE MP3'S AND AVI'S. AND HELL IF I FIND OUT WHERE THEIR OFFICE IS I WILL SURE AS HELL BURN IT STRAIGHT TO THE GROUND!!
  
  AN ANGRY SWEDE

  1.8.2003 20:40 #15

• maryjayne

  Governments might as well try to ban the internet itself. The battle would be just as easy and would take care of children getting free porn as well!
  
  Long live P2P!
  

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  1.8.2003 22:45 #16

• gocanada

  Some just don't get it! They're the same kind that tried to ban Elvis, the Beatles, and censor rap music. The harder they try, the more people will resist. As for the music industry, maybe if they stopped feeding the radio full of crap, they'd have more sales. Even my 14-year-old son says I'm lucky to have been a teen in the '70's because we had such a variety of good music. He doesn't.
  

  Real Canadian

  2.8.2003 09:37 #17

• ICEPIMP

  Yea i mean what are they expecting?? They say the law is gonna be introduced in the next year shift. So what? am i gonna wake up the next morning with a head ache because of my hang over and sitt down by my computer and find out that there arent anybody sharing files????? Is that what they expect??? HAHAHAHAHA I laugh straight in their faces!

  2.8.2003 12:35 #18

• zoaok

  LETS ALL STOP BUYING ,SET A MONTH WHEN NO ONE BUYS THIS WOULD SEND A MESSAGE. LETS ORGANIZE A MOVEMENT NOW!!!!!!

  2.8.2003 14:30 #19

• ICEPIMP

  easier said then done... we are like 20 peeps on this discussion.. and if we stop buying i dont really think they give a crap.. but its a law no one will follow anyway..

  2.8.2003 15:06 #20

• twolittle

  Kazaa came from Sweden too. Anyhow, who thinks the law is going to change a thing? You think the police will be wanting to waste their time on chasing file sharers when they could spend their time solving abuse, rape and violence cases? You don't think there would be an uproar in Sweden if someone would be sentenced to two years in jail for sharing files? Who do you think the newspapers sympathize with? The politicians, big business or the common man?
  Who do you think people sympathize with.
  
  Make no mistake, their will be a heated debate. There will be demonstrations.
  But probably not before anyone has been charged.
  
  And frankly, I don't think they'll dare to charge anyone for sharing files.
  
  The law is just there to please big business (RIAA etc.)
  
  The law came as a response to a directive from the European Union, so they won't come and help the P2P users in Sweden.
  
  This is just the beginning people, this is going to spead worldwide quickly.
  
  There will en encryption, anonymous solutions etc.
  
  File sharing simply won't cease to exist because of a silly little law.
  

  3.8.2003 03:00 #21

• twolittle

  And yes, trying to ban P2P would open up opportunities for organized crime! Thanks for the mob, government!
  
  Complain to the minister in charge:
  -->thomas.bodstrom@justice.ministry.se<--
  
  And his co-workers:
  http://www.justitie.regeringen.se/bodstrom/medarbetare.htm
  
  More:
  http://www.justitie.regeringen.se/inenglish/
  
  

  3.8.2003 03:07 #22

• Shegax

  our rights are wittling away
  
  

  Shega
  (adrenaline Is the closest Total freedom)

  3.8.2003 04:58 #23

• Stakker

  http://www.nwfusion.com/newsletters/fileshare/2003/0714p2p2.html
  
  "Freenet is reporting a threefold increase in traffic and sharply increased donations since the RIAA announced it would begin targeting individual users"
  
  As u said twolittle....encryption..
  
  It seems to be the wave of the future thanx to theese laws...great work politicians

  3.8.2003 05:53 #24

• beezee

  Wow.. this is really something. And obvioulsy this hasnt been the first time this issue has been raised.
  
  Anyhow, (even though im not situated in Sweden), all i can say to the government is that, if they intend on placing the law upon sweden, then you might as well start building extensions to the sweden prisions. There are far too many people who use P2P programs, but too little space to accomodate these 'prisioners' Haha.. another story yet again..

  5.8.2003 04:03 #25

• Ghostdog

  I feel sorry for the neighbours.

  7.8.2003 11:07 #26

• appear

  Just a little quote from the article I just read on this site so you know what i'm reacting to:
  "The Swedish government is proposing a law which would require the permission from the copyright owner before any music, video, photo or text material can be spread on the net."
  
  Excuse me???!!! The internet is a gold mine of opportunities for any artist. Which fool would actually sabotage his/her own career?

  11.9.2003 21:52 #27