DVD Decrypter to be removed

DVD Decrypter to be removed
Macrovision Corporation recently acquired the intellectual property rights in all versions of DVD Decrypter from its author, Lightning UK!. As the current owner of the intellectual property rights in DVD Decrypter Macrovision has contacted us to inform that "any license granted by Lightning UK! to AfterDawn for the distribution of any version of the Software [DVD Decrypter] is hereby terminated with immediate effect."

Even though the means used to acquire the rights to DVD Decrypter bore probably more resemblance to the common methods of the entertainment industry, we have no reason to object the request made by Macrovision. They do, in any case, own the rights to the software, and are entitled to enforce any policy they see fit.



The DVD Decrypter install package will be removed from our servers by Sunday, November 27th, or as soon as it is technically possible.

After it's development was ceased in June DVD Decrypter has been surpassed by several other software, such as AnyDVD and DVDFab Decrypter. One of the best features in DVD Decrypter was it's image burning engine, which allowed the burned disc to be verified against the image file. Luckily that feature is now available in Lightning UK!'s new software, ImgBurn.

Edit 27th of November, 2005: We have now complied with the request and removed the software from our site.

Written by: Petteri Pyyny @ 24 Nov 2005 2:48
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  • 140 comments
  • Mik3h

    Expect DVD Decrypter to come to a P2P network near you!

    -Mike

    24.11.2005 03:21 #1

  • scf_au

    I'm saving a copy just in case.

    24.11.2005 03:48 #2

  • ireland

    edit by me,

    Mik3h

    i owe you a apology..

    24.11.2005 03:57 #3

  • Daniel_G

    I think we should convince Bin Laden that Macrovision is a tool of Bush, and that he should blow up it's offices worldwide... :D

    24.11.2005 04:47 #4

  • Luke95

    Sad to see this one go but, there are better programs outhere now.

    24.11.2005 04:55 #5

  • ireland

    the info

    http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/7056.cfm
    [image]
    DVD Decrypter to be removed

    24 November 2005 7:48 by dRD
    [picture]Macrovision Corporation recently acquired the intellectual property rights in all versions of DVD Decrypter from its author, Lightning UK!. As the current owner of the intellectual property rights in DVD Decrypter Macrovision has contacted us to inform that "any license granted by Lightning UK! to AfterDawn for the distribution of any version of the Software [DVD Decrypter] is hereby terminated with immediate effect."

    Even though the means used to acquire the rights to DVD Decrypter bore probably more resemblance to the common methods of the entertainment industry, we have no reason to object the request made by Macrovision. They do, in any case, own the rights to the software, and are entitled to enforce any policy they see fit.

    The DVD Decrypter install package will be removed from our servers by Sunday, November 27th, or as soon as it is technically possible.

    After it's development was ceased in June DVD Decrypter has been surpassed by several other software, such as AnyDVD and DVDFab Decrypter. One of the best features in DVD Decrypter was it's image burning engine, which allowed the burned disc to be verified against the image file. Luckily that feature is now available in Lightning UK!'s new software, ImgBurn.

    24.11.2005 04:56 #6

  • Vedas830

    I have a feeling this is just the beginning of the Cease and Desist order for Decrypter downloads its only going to get worse
    First they go after the Websites then they will go after P2P networks granted they will never stop people from downloading the software
    I Hate to say it but Decrypter is dead just like DVDXCOPY and others
    Chalk another one up for the MPAA and company
    :(

    24.11.2005 04:57 #7

  • Cman

    this just means they still haven't found a way to defeat Decrypter so they simply bought it. I guess its true. If you can't be them, buy them..

    24.11.2005 05:31 #8

  • peanuts2

    I got my copy P2P anyone?

    24.11.2005 05:31 #9

  • peanuts2

    There's still some sites that still carry this great software.

    24.11.2005 05:34 #10

  • peanuts2

    HAHA where's their so called ripgaurd

    24.11.2005 05:37 #11

  • tmfloria

    There are still places you can d/l it from
    http://www.free-codecs.com/DVD_Decrypter_download.htm
    http://www.mrbass.org/dvdrip/
    http://www.doom9.org/Soft21/Rippers/SetupDVDDecrypter_3.5.4.0.exe
    http://fileforum.betanews.com/download/DVD_Decrypter/1011845169/1

    I'm sure you can google and find alot more sites but No worries!

    Just d/l your copy today for backup to be on the safe side

    24.11.2005 05:39 #12

  • ireland

    i feel sure that they can send out a code,to deactivate the program.
    as Macrovision Corporation now owns the program.

    i know it was free...but!!!!and we had the program b-4 they bought it..
    question,is it still ours,or do they have a right to take it from us.

    note,i do not use DVD Decrypter or have it installed.as its no lost to me..

    24.11.2005 05:56 #13

  • dikdimond

    I will not stop using Decrypter until it cannot break any of the encryption out there,plus it is still perfect for Xbox backups. I am going to try DvdFab and see what it has to offer,though.

    24.11.2005 06:28 #14

  • evilh0ly

    damn this is really pointless since DVD Decrypter cannot break the latest protection i think most of us have switch over to other rippping application well DVD Decrypter still good for ripping ps2 and xbox games.

    24.11.2005 06:49 #15

  • Gringle

    Well in the first part I agree with Scf_au, (and being paranoid) I've kept copies of, shrink, and decrypter, on my PC for the last few months.

    In the second part I've gotta go with Ireland, and wouldn't go rushing out to get it, now it's gone.

    The end of an era, my friends, (just remember to switch yer modem off before burning.)

    gringle.

    24.11.2005 06:58 #16

  • sdifox

    Ireland, I doubt it can disable programs already installed on your computer. You do have a firewall installed right? Just don't let dvddecryptor talk to the internet.

    29" Sony from 1990 :)
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    Outlaw 750
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    Panasonic RP-82S
    JVC MD recorder /CD changer
    Technic 60+1 CD Changer
    1100+ DVD
    45+ DVD-A

    24.11.2005 07:23 #17

  • ireland

    sdifox
    example,i have a program installed that i bought called ACDSee a pix editor program,they claimed after the program quit working the license was not a good one,i had it blocked with my firewall...as all the programs are on my computer..they had a back door i did not know about.

    somehow they killed the program..i did call them and got it straighten out..but it took a week,they had to give me a new license.

    WORDS OF WISDOM

    People are discovering that when you buy any product that is subject to "activation", you haven't really bought anything.



    NOTE:ACDsee is one of the best i ever used..
    http://www.acdsystems.com/

    24.11.2005 07:37 #18

  • codajohn

    May it live free forever!

    24.11.2005 07:41 #19

  • Gringle

    sdifox
    Junior Member

    'Twas me that said don't let crypter talk to the internet, but yerself being the usual?? Chose ter pick yer target.


    Oh the question marks........are abusive.

    gringle


    24.11.2005 07:53 #20

  • neurokasm

    R.I.P. DVD Decrypter

    24.11.2005 08:28 #21

  • PCDAD

    OH MAN!! I loved the burning engine in DVDD, is imgbrn any good at all?? i know LUK authored it but hey gotta ask... HAPPY TURKEY DAY!!!!

    P.S. RIP DVDD :-(

    24.11.2005 09:27 #22

  • PCB4

    I have my copy of Decrypter and I will continue to use it. Any DVD does an excellent job ripping the protection off everything I have tried so far and the updates are fequent. A great product for very little cash.

    24.11.2005 09:28 #23

  • Mik3h

    Quote:Mik3h
    i do not know where your getting your info,i wish to heck you would explain what your talking about.(like where DVD Decrypter is going to be removed from!!!!or gives us a link to back up your statement!!!

    for all i know your makeing it up...........
    ....Ehh?

    -Mike

    ps. It's "Making" not "Makeing" ;)

    24.11.2005 09:59 #24

  • ireland

    Mik3h

    quote
    ....Ehh?

    -Mike

    ps. It's "Making" not "Makeing" ;)

    is that the best you can come up with? when you post starting a thread,at least post a reference to the story so those that don't know what your talking about so we would all know....

    24.11.2005 10:12 #25

  • lxfactor

    if they told this site to take it off... that means they read all the fourm post and they know whats going on

    24.11.2005 10:18 #26

  • AlanTiger

    Ya soomething tells me ireland has had very little experience with p2p communities, dont kno why he was picking on ya Mik3h, all you did was state a true statment, no other info required, as for them being able to disable the program with this super secret special code
    .........

    24.11.2005 10:23 #27

  • ireland

    AlanTiger
    i was not picking on Mik3h, i and a couple of others did not read the story...and did not know what he was talking about.a reference is great to have so we all will know whats going on..i found out it was a true statment later after i found the story.
    so lets drop it.

    24.11.2005 10:34 #28

  • AlanTiger

    fair enough m8, but i have to ask, why read the comments befor reading the story?

    Filesoup.com and Torrentmind.com Moderator
    aka AlienTiger

    24.11.2005 11:27 #29

  • ireland

    AlanTiger
    if this is what ye ment by asking,
    your quote,why read the comments befor reading the story?

    if you go back a page 6th post down you can see i posted the story,now i knew and the rest knew what he was talking about..

    if you notice this board has a ton of news storys i posted and each has a reference link to the story or the whole story is posted with a link to where the story is from.

    24.11.2005 11:39 #30

  • JaguarGod

    I would still recommend everyone download the program and get some older versions as well. This program can still copy every movie out there. What happens if DVDFab and AnyDVD get shut down? Then there is not much more out there. Both of those require updates for a new movie, so if something happens, then a new program will have to come out. With DVD Decrypter, no updating is necessary. There are PSL files (covered by Cynthia's beautiful PSL guide) and the manual method which I covered in two guides.

    Also, there is no way for it to be disabled. The program does not install. The installation process only creates shortcuts and the directory.

    I think Macrovision used Decrypter to help aid them in making their new Ripguard protection, but I guess they failed since it can rip Madagascar in ISO mode and the other programs were updated so that they can break it as well.

    24.11.2005 11:40 #31

  • ireland

    JaguarGod

    quote JaguarGod
    The program does not install. The installation process only creates shortcuts and the directory.

    i forgot about that,as i have not used that program in a very long time,

    as i use CloneDVD since it came out,and then AnyDVD..and a couple other programs.so far all can be copyed with CloneDVD and AnyDVD..

    24.11.2005 11:46 #32

  • tmfloria

    Here is a site with some PSL's if anyone is interested in checking this out
    http://www.cdr-zone.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=33

    24.11.2005 11:51 #33

  • ireland

    its a lot easier doing it this way,

    To use DVD Decrypter in conjunction with AnyDVD as stated by Olli ->

    Proceed to the DVD Decrypter Opening Page - Tools - Settings

    I/O Tab - Click on "Elby CDIO-Elaborate Bytes"

    General Tab - un-check "Check For Structure Protection"

    24.11.2005 11:57 #34

  • tmfloria

    I'll agree it's easier to use AnyDVD with Decrypter , Shrink or any of the many 1 click programs.. But for the people who don't want to buy AnyDVD they can always look for PSL files to use with decrypter

    24.11.2005 12:09 #35

  • 6Ripper9

    I'm buying a new computer next month. Was going to sell this one, but since DVDD is being banned, I'll keep it, leave all my DVD backup programs on this one, and just use my new one for downloading other stuff. I, for one, am sick of all these corporations bitching about copyright infringement. Maybe they should have thought about all this when blank cassettes were introduced. Bunch of #^@%ing a$$holes. If I want to backup a game/movie that I own, that's my right, and they should have no right to stop me. It's not like I'm making copies for all my friends, just protecting my investment.

    Life can be for living. Just try and never give in.

    24.11.2005 12:42 #36

  • OAKside24

    DVD Decrypter still works great, I just wanted to
    reinforce that. There AMY be one or two DVDs that
    will not , but that is merely 1% of the total number
    of DVDs out there. I feel bad for LIGHTNING UK and his
    awesome DVDD - his software was very important to me, and very reliable.

    Never used anything but DVDD [& DVD Shrink] to burn my
    legal backups of games and movies succesfully. The end
    of one, beginning of another: Visit www.ImgBurn.com,
    check out the burning software [and donate]!

    24.11.2005 13:08 #37

  • AlanTiger

    OIC, i never relised that the story wasnt connected to the forum posts, sorry about that ireland, its easy not to think about something like that when you really only read the stories and comments on the same page

    http://bits.torrentmind.com
    BiTSwarmers Release Group

    24.11.2005 13:09 #38

  • Alien13

    Man this sucks :( Oh well, at least we still have access to dvd decryptor :) And the other frre ones available :)

    Ill have to edit my web page and get rid of the link to aD's dvd decryptor :( Thanks for lettin me link to it :)

    24.11.2005 14:12 #39

  • ireland

    quote,
    Macrovision Corporation recently acquired the intellectual property rights in all versions of DVD Decrypter from its author,

    i have to say this as a joke,but it just might be true.he,he

    ye know the reason is that Macrovision bought DVD Decrypter they could not copy there own copy Macrovision protection movie's and they needed the DVD Decrypter code to do it.

    24.11.2005 14:43 #40

  • Apoch

    Does DVD Fab D have the same options and power as DVD Decrypter?

    24.11.2005 15:15 #41

  • nonoitall

    Who else buys software rights just to bully people out of distributing it. All along they claim they're trying to protect innovators' rights. Makes me sick.

    24.11.2005 15:42 #42

  • j0j081

    I highly doubt DVD Decrypter has a self destruct mechanism so to speak built-in. The original author Lightning UK wouldn't have included one and even if he did I'm sure someone would have discovered any suspicious internet checks it makes by now and informed the community. Most software that has the ability to deactivate itself requires activation in the first place or comes from a shady source.

    24.11.2005 15:49 #43

  • calweycn

    "Does DVD Fab D have the same options and power as DVD Decrypter?"

    DVD Fab has no ISO Read Mode. Just file mode. It makes useless temp directories. It screws up some discs with bad sectors, like Before Sunset. DVD Decrypter has not failed me yet. I have tweaked settings, like to "detect mastering errors", and "Aggressive structure protection removal." People who have problems with DVD Decrypter probably just don't have it configured properly. It is still working even on the newest discs.

    24.11.2005 17:10 #44

  • mufin_man

    It was just a matter of time !

    Just a Reminder, if you haven't been warned;

    1. Don't forget to disable the DVDD Auto Check For Update Feature (Settings > Events > "Check for Program Update").

    2. Don't use the DVDD HELP function as it links back to the old website.

    No reason to fall on your sword !

    MM

    24.11.2005 17:41 #45

  • aabbccdd

    backup DVD Decrypter on a disc for reinstall it later

    24.11.2005 17:43 #46

  • ricoman

    Just for the record, JaquarGod, you don't have to worry about AnyDVD shutting down, they are based in Antiqua which doesn't have the same copyright laws. This is the Carribean, you know, secret offshore accounts, internet gambling etc. That's where you go to circumvent international business law. Legit businesses set up down there just to bypass their own country's laws. Backing up DVD's is no on their radar.

    24.11.2005 18:32 #47

  • cash1la

    What I want to know in all of this is, where is LUK. I mean how can he have done this. I wish he could confirm it. I know the story is out there but still, hearing it from the man himself would be much better don't you think guys?

    24.11.2005 18:40 #48

  • chesty

    It's just as well afterdawn.com removed DVD Decrypter from their servers.

    I am a citizen of the united states and i can assure you if afterdawn.com was involved in the highly questionable takedown tactics the entertainment cartels in this country employ under the DMCA for alleged copyright imfringement Afterdawn.com would be PRESUMED GUILTY until proven innocent and in the end afterdawn.com would lose in court and would have to shell out $MILLIONS in restitution and legal fees.

    This would be the case when finland's new draconian copyright laws go into effect.

    It would not be legal to distribute decss utilities on the internet.

    I know this website is not made out of money and after losing in court they would have to shutdown their website.

    It's just as well and it would not be worth it.

    There are much better programs than DVD Decrypter anyway.

    24.11.2005 18:40 #49

  • jiggygeek

    Not to worry. For every protection scheme out there, there will always be a program to reverse engineer the protection.

    24.11.2005 19:18 #50

  • Charlieco

    They're Germany and your France. circa 1940's
    Youville do as your told! Shnell! Shnell!
    Wow! paid for Oppression or training, programming, brain washing using cash.

    24.11.2005 19:29 #51

  • crowy

    ImgBurn,son of DVD Decrypter!!!!!!!

    24.11.2005 19:30 #52

  • jmet

    Quote:"Luckily that feature is now available in Lightning UK!'s new software, ImgBurn. "Hmmmmmmmmmmm, I wonder how AfterDawn.com learned about LUK!'s new program "ImgBurn".

    24.11.2005 19:41 #53

  • A_Klingon

    Hmmmmmmmmm......

    Macrovision Corp., quite frankly, makes me sick to my stomach. Always has.
    Quote: Macrovision has contacted us to inform that "any license granted by Lightning UK! to AfterDawn for the distribution of any version of the Software [DVD Decrypter] is hereby terminated with immediate effect."Yep - sounds about right. A heavy-handed ultimatum from a company which -- if it didn't have the ma$$ive financial backing of the Hollywood Motion Picture Industry behind it to instill the fear of Living Hell into the hearts of everyone -- would be as lame-dicked as a eunich in a whorehouse.

    Similar hard talk was shoved up Lighting UK's a## when MacroSuction ordered him to take down DVD Decrypter. (I think most of us have read Lightning's words on the subject when he explained to us why DVDD could no longer be supported by him).

    When it is stated that the company "recently acquired the intellectual property rights" to the program, what does that mean?

    That they bought-off Lightning UK with a big chunk of change? Or that they threatened to break his neck if he didn't immediately comply with their directive?

    The fact that they have specifically singled out AfterDawn in this case, tells me volumes about how very important A/D has become in the online world.

    (Good!)

    I still use DVD Decrypter to marvellous effect. For the most part, I doubt that anyone will really need all that much more in the way of a ripper for the remaining time the (standard) DVD format will be with us. Blu-Ray and/or HD-DVD will be taking over soon enough, and regular DVD will eventually become a niche (or niche-like) format.

    I get a real kick out of these companies who bluster and blow like a typhoon with nothing more than a pair of store-bought balls. On their own, MicroSuck would have faded from the public conscience years ago.

    -- A_K --

    24.11.2005 19:59 #54

  • max777

    Someone needs to inform Macrovision that they cannot OWN intellectual rights to what has already entered into the public domain or shareware, at least in the U.S. I don't know what kind of crazy laws they have in the U.K. This would be a nightmare for shareware distributors.

    No one ever needed a license to distribute this piece of software. I don't even see any info regarding licensing, maybe it was on the web site they took down.

    24.11.2005 20:41 #55

  • MESMD

    Hi you guys:
    Has anyone been using Shrinkto5.exe? It was the follow up to the new dvdshrink. It works faster and, I think, has better video quality, than its predecessor!! No one ever mentions this great program-free for copying dvds. It also has its own decrypter called machinist.dll which just stays in the installed directory as shrinkto5.exe.
    If you have used or heard about it, please post and tell me what you think? The programer has not made a version for win 9x as of yet.
    thanks,
    Miles

    24.11.2005 20:51 #56

  • jolo

    DVDD is landmark software, fantastic !! I hope we can help the author move on.

    I have nothing about working together as good active consumers and activists. Just to download others work, doesn't cut it !!

    1. All of us whould make a call, send a fax or email to Macrovision AND THE MIAA, letting them know as as one of the group of the largest movie going and DVD movie purchasing public that they are wasting millions on buying politicians, creating bad will with their customers as well as having to go to illegal and costly measure like buying the rights for DVDD.

    2. AnyDVD is a excellent product at a reasonable price, if you want to help the development of it, keep it alive, please BUY IT !!

    3. If one uses some adware free product that helps us, as consumers, take back control of the entertainment industry, it would be a great idea to send a donation to those people once in a while. Without any funds, development stops, families can't eat and they cannot afford legal bill.

    4. PLEASE take a few minutes to let companies like Macrovision, Sony, RIAA members, artists, movie studios, some correspondance to let them know how yoou feel. It does not have to be nasty or long. BUT, it is important to be an activist.

    An example as well is to let your federal legislatures and the attorney generals office know that you want them to crack down on the corruption of the entertainment industry. Specifically, how the Attorney General of New York, Howard Spitzer, went to court and and won, and caught Sony, Radio stations, Clear Channel, with massive payola and price fixing schemes and basically not allowing artists to get their music be heard, etc.

    It is essential that the FCC and the Attorney General's office goes ut and PROSECUTES the true pirates of the industry. The movie and music heads spend a fortune lobbying congress and the administration, and we can change things by alerting the politicos, and the companies that we are watching them and expect the Legislative and Judicial branches of the federal government to slam the crap out of these companies that act more like organizes crime families. The attornet general of a single state can only do so much. It is CRIMINAL that the feds have not followed through.

    End of talk.

    Quick notes as citizens and consumers to the media, politicians, Corporations who get away with criminal activity need to be changed. Also, the RIGHT to make backups of our purchases should be encourages anyway.

    Last is, HELP SUPPORT those talented and motivated people who create software and write the codecs that allow people like us to simply go about our business.

    They are the criminals and priates and the ones that have had prior convictions for crimes that have stolen millions from artists and the general public.

    Thanks,

    Jon

    24.11.2005 21:22 #57

  • PirateDan

    Well another one bites the dust, but I live by this saying. "As one door closes and another one opens", but that doesn't mean you have to knock or use a key. In buying out the rights to DVD Decrypter they are just saying that there isn't anything out there that can beat it. And if they keep up this kind of Nazi tactics they will only put themselves in a corner in which they won't be able to get out of.

    24.11.2005 21:29 #58

  • doriany

    If by "acquired" you mean "bought" then why are we complaining about macrovision?
    I rarely post on these sights because all the post seem to be against the big evil coporations that just sue poor innocent little program makers... just this once however it looks like the big evil company didn't sue, they didn't try and extract thounds of pounds from the maers of such software, no they bought it, as in they gave money to the people cracking their protections.

    It seems they can't win either way...

    to me it just looks like Lightening UK! sold out.
    Maybe all this "few against the coporations" has it's price...

    24.11.2005 22:24 #59

  • cash1la

    Ok. I've been doing some research for the past six hours and nothing seems to click up. Some people say LUK sold out. But then again, I have read my self LUK post about what happend with (THE COMPANY) and it seems he was forsed to removed this freeware. It doesn't seem like he sold out. If he would have sold out, do you think he would have started a new program asking for donations. Somethings not right. There's a new program out there but yet they are asking for donations. Hmmmmmmm There's something fishy going on.

    24.11.2005 22:33 #60

  • nonoitall

    Though Macrovision would have you think they bought the rights to the software, in reality pretty much what happened is they bullied them into giving it up. Macrovision's technique is simple - rather than actually create a reliable copy-protection technology, let's just bottle up every technology capable of defeating our pathetic one.

    24.11.2005 23:41 #61

  • Doofy

    Seems to me that you can't really blame macrovision they are only doing trying to prevent piracy bottom line. There is IMO a big difference between backing up your shop bought DVD's and then nipping down to the local shop to rent and rip. There are so many people complaining about the big corporations doing this and doing that but think nothing of ripping a dvd that they have rented and do not legally own. A slight case of double standards from some quarters. Decrypter was and still is a marvellous program but if i were in macrovisions shoes i would have done exactly the same thing they have.

    25.11.2005 00:48 #62

  • dRD

    Doofy: Actually in several countries, including Finland where aD is based, rental shops pay about 5 times the retail price for DVDs, as the DVDs purchased for rental purposes carry a levy that goes to copyright owners and that is justified by the fact that Finnish legislation makes it legal to copy rented movies for personal use, whether you own the original or not. So, taking away tools that allow doing so isn't exactly "nice", as consumers pay for that right anyway (via higher rental fees due the levy and also the blank media, like DVDRs, carries levy that compensates authors for home copying).

    25.11.2005 02:53 #63

  • Doofy

    Fair points not being up on finish laws puts me at a disadvantage, however what happens when and if the legisltion changes? The legislation you have does not apply to most countries

    Burn rubber that doesn't mean warp speed

    25.11.2005 03:28 #64

  • A_Klingon

    ...and further to dRD's comments above, here in Canada -- at least according to Section 80 of the Canadian Copyright Act, it is perfectly legal to make for-personal-use-only at-home copies of DVDs obtained from an accredited Local Public Library.

    And until that law is either repealed or recinded, you (we) are not breaking any laws.

    Also .... now that I think of it:

    It seems to me that Lightning UK! might simply have removed the ability of DVDD to remove the stupid MacroSuck copy-protection flag. In other words, if he had left the stupid flag intact, then MicroDik wouldn't really have a case, would they? Their whole premise is based on a piece of software that circumvents their lame copy-protection mechanism.

    When you get right down to it, who *cares* if your backup copy still contains the flag? You might not be able to copy your backup to, say, a VHS tape, but it wouldn't make a shred of difference when playing the disc back on a set top dvd player.

    But I expect that Lightning UK! has already thought about that and decided that it wasn't worth the misery he'd have to endure to simply disable the microdik flag.

    25.11.2005 03:33 #65

  • PCDAD

    lol

    25.11.2005 05:06 #66

  • mufin_man

    All right, you've got me on my political soap box now!

    If you don't like your freedoms being taken away, stop electing the same old political wonks to public office.

    I don't know about the UK or Canada, but in the US both political parties have become lackeys of the international bankers and the multi-national corporations. Look at some recent examples; Denial of meaningful bankruptcy protection to the lower 80% of the population, this was voted in by a significant majority of both houses of congress. Immigration reform that allows 300,000 to 500,000 more illegal workers to enter this country, have free access to public services we pay for, and drive down wages for legal American workers. 12,000,000 Americans unable to find a living wage job and a majority of the members in congress are voting for their own financial interests.

    Everybody wants to vote out the crooks and frauds in public office, they just don't want to vote out their crook that has been feeding off societies tit for 30 years or longer. Vote out the old timers and let's start training a whole new group of whores for the future!

    25.11.2005 05:25 #67

  • ireland

    Are there any lawyers out there in the USA or other Country’s that can comment on the legal Aspects on this, like our legal standing on this free program DVD Decrypter b-4 it was bought out.
    And our rights after the DVD Decrypter buy out. and continued use.
    And did lighting-uk include ImgBurn in the sale.
    http://imgburn.com/
    I sure like to hear lighting-uk comment on his sale of DVD Decrypter to Macrovision Corporation.


    To answer a question some one posted,the reason I feel they went after after dawn to remove DVD Decrypter was because his site DVDxcopy by 321 studios Started the copying craze in 2002.
    also i feel thats what made afterdawn famous to the world.

    heres the afterdawn/dvdxcopy site that started it all.
    http://dvdxcopy.afterdawn.com/


    edit by me

    25.11.2005 06:14 #68

  • Doofy

    Off Topic

    Ireland my wife suffers from th esame problem and to me your posts are perfectly acceptable, it is people like you that help out around here that make it a wortwhile place to be.

    On topic

    As i had it explained to me the copying of the films isnt really the problem it's the circumventing of the copy protection when it starts to get iffy. In the countries where the law prohibits copying people can hardly complain about the likes of macrovision, making it difficult to back up discs they are not suppose to back up anyway.

    Burn rubber that doesn't mean warp speed

    25.11.2005 07:20 #69

  • oracle

    I'm feeling like an idiot!
    Macrovision bought a program which was/is distributed for free! Alas! what kind of investors supporting this firm? Who can send you in court if you own a copy prior of the purchasing of the rights?
    The aim is that they want to force us to by paid software. Personaly I believe that sister firms are developing commercial DVD backup products.
    Next step, I suppose, is to buy all relative freeware products. C' mon this reminds me the joke:
    How an investor who's buying stocks at limit up prices and sold to limit down has become a millionaire?
    Answer: He was a billionaire!

    25.11.2005 12:28 #70

  • ricoman

    The guys who say LUK sold out are idiots. The guy gave the software away free for years, yet these morons are so ready to trash him. Some people are so jaded that they have to be negative about everything and everyone. LUK made litte or no money on this software and he was threatened with a lawsuit and the possibility of criminal charges (it is, after all, illegal to copy copyrighted materials in most countries). The ingrates should be kissing his butt for hanging in there as long as he did just to give them freeware.

    25.11.2005 13:26 #71

  • Doofy

    The truth of the matter is no one really knows what happened between LUK and macrovision, I really don't blame him for giving it all up if he was forced to give it up then he made the right choice for him. If he gained any finacial reward for it then also the right choice for him. IMO LUK should be applauded for bringing out a program that has without doubt made the backing up of dvds a damn sight easier than it could have been.

    25.11.2005 13:52 #72

  • jmet

    Quote:"The truth of the matter is no one really knows what happened between LUK and macrovision,"That is a untrue statement.

    25.11.2005 13:55 #73

  • OTT

    Irish, I don't think it's an issue of what your rights are, but more an issue of what you're going to spend to litigate those rights. I'm not a copyright attorney, but I am an author who put stuff in the public domain before. The stuff I put in the public domain, I had no legal right to tell someone not to distribute. I've seen it in the middle of other people's novels, and yet, by giving up my rights, making it literary freeware, I could do nothing about it.

    So part of the answer might be that if it was in the public domain, then the versions that were given in the public domain stand in the same shoes as my oft used fiction. BUT, I don't know if "freeware" is the same as being in the public domain. I'd suggest someone interested find out.

    But a bigger part would be, how much do you want to shell out for lawyer fees? Because you can believe they have as many lawyers dancing on this one as Zeigfield had follies girls in his shows. In the US there are lawfirms with thousands of lawyers in them. They could easily deploy even a small dozen of those to buzz around your ears so much that you'd get no work done. Killer Bees are nothing in comparison to the crews that can be summoned from the large law firms. The sick part would be that they could take any such expenses off their taxes. OK, that's not the only sick part.

    25.11.2005 16:28 #74

  • ozzy214

    I think is bs. Decrypter was freeware so how the hell does macrosucks own it? It cant be sold. I want to see the legal binding contract that says they own it and can force afterdawn to take it away.:>


    Oh and if macrovision is reading I have 4 copies of the latest on disk, floppy, and two hard drives. Come on over and try to take it away. I will just make more copies of this freeware and spread it around via bittorrent or frostwire.

    Come on I dare you.....my louis slugger will be waiting when ya trespass to take away my free tool.

    I wish the best to luk and I wish he would post the source code so we could update it and repost it under new name. Hell anyone know how to rip the proggry apart pm me.:>

    25.11.2005 17:03 #75

  • gobills

    I used DVDD all the time and have always loved it. I have heard DVD43 was pretty good but havent seen alot said about it here, anybody use it? whats your thoughts about it?

    25.11.2005 18:09 #76

  • aabbccdd

    not to highjack the thread BUT DVD43 conflits with alot of programs, doesnt update often enough making it difficult sometimes doing the newer movies. i rather use DVDD with PSL files instead of using dvd43

    BUT your best bet is using AnyDVD ,by FAR a better program than DVD43 ,you get what yo pay for !!

    25.11.2005 18:16 #77

  • aabbccdd

    not to highjack the thread BUT DVD43 conflits with alot of programs, doesnt update often enough making it difficult sometimes doing the newer movies. i rather use DVDD with PSL files instead of using dvd43

    BUT your best bet is using AnyDVD ,by FAR a better program than DVD43 ,you get what yo pay for !!

    25.11.2005 18:16 #78

  • A_Klingon

    Quote: Off Topic

    Ireland my wife suffers from th esame problem and to me your posts are perfectly acceptable, it is people like you that help out around here that make it a wortwhile place to be.
    (And he's extremely handsome too!)

    Oh poop ...... I just ran out of smokes.........

    Dear Ireland: Could ye pleeze email me a pack o' ciggies till next Wednesday?

    (Many thnx).

    25.11.2005 18:37 #79

  • borhan9

    Amazing that Macrovison did this huh :) well they couldn't come up with anything stronger soo they bought it wow!! big suprise :)

    Well there are other programs that can do the job soo no worries :) but i have to say DVDD is probablly the finest program that can doo the job :)

    Good Bye DVDD

    25.11.2005 20:37 #80

  • victedy

    If the entertainment industry lowered the price of their goods, NO ONE would turn to the sites like lightning UK. Good for you LUK and long may you keep coming up with other programmes to get at macrovision and their ilk!

    26.11.2005 09:28 #81

  • alkohol

    Quote:I would still recommend everyone download the program and get some older versions as well. This program can still copy every movie out there. What happens if DVDFab and AnyDVD get shut down? Then there is not much more out there. Both of those require updates for a new movie, so if something happens, then a new program will have to come out. With DVD Decrypter, no updating is necessary. There are PSL files (covered by Cynthia's beautiful PSL guide) and the manual method which I covered in two guides.

    Also, there is no way for it to be disabled. The program does not install. The installation process only creates shortcuts and the directory.

    I think Macrovision used Decrypter to help aid them in making their new Ripguard protection, but I guess they failed since it can rip Madagascar in ISO mode and the other programs were updated so that they can break it as well.
    I agree..!! DVD Decrypter is still the King Of Ripper if you know how to use it (or can use little help from PSL, VobBlanker, PgcEdit or IfoEdit).


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    26.11.2005 11:10 #82

  • jaminjim

    Lightning UKs new program imgburn I was sad to see don't have a read mode unless I just haven't figured it out yet but other than that it is almost a clone of DVD Decrypter.

    26.11.2005 11:17 #83

  • jamoskeag

    The fact that MV acquired DVDD does not necessarily mean that MV paid LUK any money. They could have said, give us all the rights toDVDD or we will sue you.
    That would not put any money in LUK's pocket. Just a thought. The only ones who probably will ever know are LUK and MV. But the point remains, you can "acquire" something without putting up any cash.

    26.11.2005 15:50 #84

  • Chetwood

    Gosh, I really wish you guys with no clue whatsoever would <expletives deleted>!

    Chetwood: I get a bit emphatic myself sometimes, but please try to tone down the language. The 'F'-word and sentiments you expressed are way beyond the realm of good taste here. (Thnx). -- A_K --

    LUK! was FORCED by MV to hand over all rights to his program otherwise they'd sue his sorry ass into oblivion. How come? Simple, his tool violated laws in the UK (and elsewhere).

    And even if a software is distributed for free of course there is still a copyright owner who can decide what to do with his tool as he sees fit. As MV now owns the tool they can decide to pull it off the market as they just did.

    So NO, LUK! never sold out and YES it's an evil company that wants to make a living by depriving us from our fair use rights. No goddamn lawyer is gonna stop me from making backups of DVDs I PAID FOR onto my media server in the basement.

    26.11.2005 22:39 #85

  • A_Klingon

    Quote:LUK! was FORCED by MV to hand over all rights to his program otherwise they'd sue his sorry ass into oblivion. How come? Simple, his tool violated laws in the UK (and elsewhere). What I don't understand is this:

    HOW is it that MV, all of a sudden, can consider someone else's own, personal intellectual property (DVDD) as their own?

    My understanding was that UK and USA (and other) law simply states that one must not provide the tools that would enable a company's copy-protection mechanisms to be circumvented.

    Since DVDD allows the user to disable the proprietary MV protection from a retail, commercial Macrovision-enabled DVD, it seems to me that the most Macrovision should have been able to demand of Lightning UK, was to remove the MV-disabler from his software.

    One can still make a 100% perfectly useable backup of a DVD, even *with* the MV "protection" left intact. If Lightning UK had simply removed the ability of his software to remove MV "protection", that SHOULD have been a totally, legally-acceptable response and solution on Lightning's part. MV has no legal entitlement to demand anything more.

    How it is that MV came to the realization that it now owns DVDD *outright*, escapes me.

    So, until/unless Lightning UK or someone else can or will give us further information, we'll probably never know what happened.

    My take on it though, is that Lightning was simply bullied, threatened and intimidated by a big corporation that has far more money than most of us will ever see.

    27.11.2005 07:33 #86

  • S2K

    <i> Decrypter was freeware so how the hell does macrosucks own it?</i>
    Becuse it used macrovsion owned code. Anyone who understands how DVD Decrypter works knows there was a patent violation going on. People can say what they want about DVD copyright issues in Canada and Finland (and most of what was posted above is actually not correct anyway) but even in Canada and Finland use of someone else's patented code is illegal.

    27.11.2005 07:44 #87

  • Chetwood

    Quote:HOW is it that MV, all of a sudden, can consider someone else's own, personal intellectual property (DVDD) as their own?What part of 'he handed over all his rights to MV to stop them from suing him' did you not understand? They gave him a choice: either give us all your rights to your tool or let's meet in court and see who comes out alive.

    I don't know the exact UK laws being violated by DVDD but it's either you remove MV when copying a disc which violates copyright or you copy the whole disc with MV which violates MV patents. So all you can do is abort ripping when MV is detected IF you want to be on the safe side.

    27.11.2005 09:06 #88

  • allegra

    All you people who are members and have commented in this section maybe you better check out the ImgBurn site Chat Forum and see exactly what the members there think of AD members and are postings. Very interesting reading including the part where we are all a$$holes. Got to be a member though.......

    http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=333

    27.11.2005 10:00 #89

  • ireland

    My take on DVD Decrypter I am not a lawyer just my way of thinking, as long as it was giving away free by lighning_uk.
    I feel a copy of DVD Decrypter belongs to those that download DVD Decrypter b-4 the sale. Since Macrovision Corporation now is the owner of DVD Decrypter and any download is illegal from that point on from the date of sale..I do not know if Macrovision Corporation has any control of a previous download b-4 the sale.

    I think that's the answer that all would like to know.


    i have nothing to say about whats going over at ImgBurn site Chat Forum..
    thats there private world,and ours is a open to the world to read.

    they are welcome to comment here.i see that no one here flamed any one..

    27.11.2005 10:07 #90

  • codymax

    For those of you johnny come latley that were not able to download and archive from this site(like myself), Mr.bass.org still has it available!!! I just downloaded it to store on a cd-r.How much longer I can't say, but you better get it before MOCO-vision gets to it.
    Ciao

    27.11.2005 15:09 #91

  • evilh0ly

    u can always download it from the p2p and bittorrent, they can never stop it it's useless can they see it's not working.

    80 or less piz get the fxxk out of the left lane.

    27.11.2005 16:50 #92

  • A_Klingon

    @Chetwood:
    Quote:What part of 'he handed over all his rights to MV to stop them from suing him' did you not understand? What part of "...the most MacroVision should have been able to demand of Lightning UK, was to remove the MV-disabler from his software." don't YOU understand?

    You're stating the bleeding obvious. Hindsight is easy. We all know what MV did.

    You either fail to understand what I am telling you, or you choose to ignore it. I suspect the latter, so I'll just reiterate what you already know:

    MacroVision had ZERO claim-of-ownership to any of the code in LUK's software. However, since UK law states that you may NOT circumvent/alter/disable anyone else's proprietary, patented copy-protection mechanisms, which is what MicroSuck is all about, they had a legal right to demand that UK remove that portion of his software ONLY.

    Whether or not they threatened or intimated him (which I believe they did) doesn't surprise me in the least, but as I say ... unless LUK or someone else gives more information other than pure speculation, we won't really know what went down.

    27.11.2005 21:14 #93

  • Chetwood

    Quote:they had a legal right to demand that UK remove that portion of his software ONLY.That's a reiteration, you're right. Still not very informative though. I take it you're no lawyer (as most of us here) so how can you be sure what MV could or could not demand of LUK!?

    And even if this were true the outcome is the same, isn't it? They obviously had enough leverage to make LUK! give up all the rights and seize control of his tool. That's what matters.

    The only thing I'm astonished about (now I'm reiterating what I've said on other forums) is that LUK! didn't see that coming.

    27.11.2005 21:49 #94

  • A_Klingon

    @allegra:
    Quote:All you people who are members and have commented in this section maybe you better check out the ImgBurn site Chat Forum and see exactly what the members there think of AD members and are postings. Very interesting reading including the part where we are all a$$holes. Got to be a member though.......Thank you! kindly for that 'head's-up', allegra!

    Well, you know ... talk is cheap. A/D doesn't need to take a back seat to anyone, however, I did click on the link you gave. But as you say, one has to be a member.

    I don't think anyone should have to register on a Forum just to see what the Neighbours are thinking. Since the negative spin (which I didn't see) apparently originated from their quarter, we'll let them come to us to show us the 'error of our ways'.

    Besides..... a$$holes aren't all that bad a thing. (We all need at least one, eh?)

    27.11.2005 21:54 #95

  • A_Klingon

    Quote:That's a reiteration, you're right. Still not very informative though. I agree with you, it's not. Perhaps, with luck, someone -- perhaps even LUK himself -- (I'd love to hear from him) will give us a more definitive answer.

    27.11.2005 22:02 #96

  • A_Klingon

    @Ireland:
    Quote: My take on DVD Decrypter I am not a lawyer just my way of thinking, as long as it was giving away free by lighning_uk. .... I do not know if Macrovision Corporation has any control of a previous download b-4 the sale. If it was a sale, Larry. :-)

    Well, I'll put it to you this way:

    Since MV had no problem "assimilating" DVD Decrypter lock, stock and barrel as it's very own, *I* will have no problem with my continued use -- also lock-stock-&-barrel -- of the program either.

    Since I don't make VHS copies of the discs anymore anyway, I couldn't care less if my disc backups contain the MV flag or not.

    I simply take it out as a matter of principle.

    (I'd love to see a copy of the letter they sent to A/D).

    27.11.2005 22:17 #97

  • aabbccdd

    maybe we can talk dRD into posting it , its highly unlikly though

    27.11.2005 22:29 #98

  • A_Klingon

    (You're probably right).

    If I'm not mistaken, (I often am), I *think* that LUK must also send a copy of all the "please-remove-DVDD-from your-website" letters back TO MacroSuction, to ensure (prove) that he is complying with their Nazi-like directives.

    27.11.2005 22:45 #99

  • aabbccdd

    LOL well put A_Klingon ,macrosuction heheh

    27.11.2005 23:05 #100

  • bigt1

    Doom9 & MRBass still have it. Why was ADAWN singled out to get rid of it?

    27.11.2005 23:11 #101

  • aabbccdd

    huge huge ,high profile site ,thats why

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    27.11.2005 23:41 #102

  • pogipaul

    Thanks for the tip.Yes, Mrbass.org has it, along with a few others.And ,as another suggested, I will burn it to CD.Here's where I hope I can help. Don't count on Norton/symantec to save you on those. 3 times in 2 years their "protection" has deleted DVDDcrypt. Thank God I switched services before Monday!

    28.11.2005 03:14 #103

  • S2K

    "My understanding was that UK and USA (and other) law simply states that one must not provide the tools that would enable a company's copy-protection mechanisms to be circumvented.

    MacroVision had ZERO claim-of-ownership to any of the code in LUK's software. However, since UK law states that you may NOT circumvent/alter/disable anyone else's proprietary, patented copy-protection mechanisms, which is what MicroSuck is all about, they had a legal right to demand that UK remove that portion of his software ONLY. "

    I understand you are a moderator, and but You are confused and giving out INCORRECT information. The issue would be a PATENT issue.

    Did any of you follow what really happened in the 321 case or read any of the briefs? The trap they got caught in, the one where macrovision had the by the BALLS was patent law.

    28.11.2005 05:01 #104

  • A_Klingon

    321? What is that? Who are they?

    (No, of course not. I have never been in personal contact with Robert Moore on several occassions).
    Quote:I understand you are a moderator, and but You are confused and giving out INCORRECT information. The issue would be a PATENT issue. That's correct. And MV made it abundantly clear they were not going to allow LUK to circumvent their patented suckware. But anyway -- patents aside, I'm not disseminating incorrect information; I am expressing my opinion and asking questions. As another was quick to point out, I am not an attorney.

    What I AM is one of a zillion people who are becoming increasingly pissed off at the scare tactics used by large companies against small individuals in managing to systematically stamp out people's Fair Rights, including yours, by their well-financed bank of Attorneys and paid-off politicians & Judges, simply because it threatens their already abundant bottom-line.

    I question MV's legal authority to demand someone else's intellectual property through coersion, intimidation, threats, and bullying. I question that which I believe to be inherently wrong and unjust.

    Do you believe MacroSuction had a right to demand LUK's software and declare it as their own?

    [ ] - Yes
    [ ] - No

    Do you believe their legal entitlement should have stopped if LUK had deleted the MV-defeating portion of his program?

    [ ] - Yes
    [ ] - No

    Please advise me of your thought on these issues and let me know the correct answers to these qustions so that I won't be erroneously tempted to give out wrong information in the future.

    28.11.2005 08:05 #105

  • JaguarGod

    I thought the MicroNuts protection is just a 1 in one of the lines of VIDEO_TS.IFO that can be turned off by changing it to a 0. If this is the case, they would have to shut down every software capable of editing an IFO.

    28.11.2005 08:28 #106

  • S2K

    A_Klingon, I did not want to come off too critical. I would say you are 90% correct in what you have said on this thread.
    The tactic used by macrovision wa, let's face it, a threat of a bankrupting legal war on a little guy who could not afford it. But the wierd conjuction of dmca AND patent is what got 321 and it would have been the case with DVD Decrypter.

    I just think it is important to seperate the legal issues from issues of equity and fairness.

    28.11.2005 10:49 #107

  • chesty

    I quess none of you people actually live in the united states.

    I will make it simple.

    Under Us copyright law under the DMCA the author of dvd decyrpter would not only have to worry about distribution of css utilties which is illegal in it's self on the internet or otherwise he could also get sued for a patent violation and enroachment by macrovision for stealing any of their patents.

    That is the bottom line in the united states.

    CORPORATE GREED.........

    Those people don't miss a thing and that is why everyt tangible commodity in the united states has a copyright or patent rights attached to it so if a person infringes on their copyright or patent rights they will sue their butts off and put them out of business by civil litigation and adverse judgements penalties and legal fees.

    I even had a US congressman write me onetime and tell me that copyright and patents is the bulwark of the United states constitution and she claimed that piracy in general inhibits industry's ability to be creative and to create an atmosphere of ingenuity.

    This was in verbatim in a e - mail i received by my senator that represents me in california.

    There have been repeated attempts to change the anti circumvention clause of the DMCA in the United States congress but all attempts have failed thus far because ALL menbers of the United states congress are on the RIAA and MPAA'S bribe and kickback list.

    If The author of DVD Decrypter lived in the united states not only would have he lost his shirt he would have also lost his butt.

    28.11.2005 12:04 #108

  • davidl1l

    has anyone downloaded imgburn and is it the same as dvd decrypt or is it better...

    28.11.2005 12:26 #109

  • Chetwood

    Quote:huge huge ,high profile site ,thats whyLOL! Doom9 is and has been THE high profile site when it comes to video backup.

    28.11.2005 12:42 #110

  • JaguarGod

    @davidl1l,

    I have ImgBurn and it is definatley NOT DVD Decrypter. What it is, is a very good low resource Image Burning Software. It is based on DVD Decrypters burning engine. For now, Decrypter is a great Burning app, but in time, it will not work with all DVD Burners. Therefore, ImgBurn is a good tool to have for free Image Burning since it will still update.

    As far as I know there will not be any type of DVD Reading on the program.

    28.11.2005 13:00 #111

  • S2K

    "<I>Under Us copyright law under the DMCA the author of dvd decyrpter would not only have to worry about distribution of css utilties which is illegal in it's self on the internet or otherwise he could also get sued for a patent violation and enroachment by macrovision for stealing any of their patents."</I>

    Patent protection in the UK is the same as the US

    28.11.2005 15:32 #112

  • A_Klingon

    S2K : Quote:I just think it is important to seperate the legal issues from issues of equity and fairness. Well perhaps, but they're so hopelessly intertwined it's virtually impossible to separate the two.

    And I DO see your analogy between DVDD and 321. The two cases have a lot in common. (DeCSS and MV Patents). It appears (to me) that MV pulled exactly the same stunt on DVDD as they did 321. I guess they figured since they walloped 321, DVDD would be small potatoes.
    Quote:I would say you are 90% correct in what you have said on this thread. Jumpin' Johanna! 90% (!!) That's a record for me!

    (I must be improving)

    @chesty :

    Thank you for your very thoughtful post above.

    It's both a scary and depressing situation when a congressman (and Senator as well???) both tell you what the deplorable situation IS, yet seem resigned that nothing will change for the better. (They didn't give you any cause for hope).

    Gawd! You guys in the US have it rough!!! (We all do really). Sooner or later, whatever happens in the USA winds it's way here into Canada as well. Not that it matters that much, because our own government is corrupt. (Just tonight, our Liberal Prime Minister was voted out of a job for "corruption and organized crime"). All opposition parties (3 of them) voted that our present government has lost the "moral authority" to govern any further. We are now forced into another election.

    Do you have any such remedy in the US? (With all of the political buy-offs, I sort-of doubt it). :-|

    28.11.2005 19:30 #113

  • davidl1l

    yea i went to their site and downloaded it.it looks about the same so i unastalled it...lol...

    29.11.2005 07:45 #114

  • runner121

    Of course they will send code to deactivate,thats why we diligantly make backups of our registry to "GOOD TIMEZ" :)

    29.11.2005 23:09 #115

  • kacevedo

    I would like to know if anyone has a copy of the decrypter program?? Please I am in great need.My computer crashed yesterday and i lost it . It is a great program and I have a hard time using any other . Please get back to me thanks again . Acevedo777@msn.com


    Thank all
    karen

    7.12.2005 15:41 #116

  • JaguarGod

    @kacevedo,

    You should edit out your e-mail address. It is against forum rules and you are asking for trouble from spammers.

    Try this link:

    http://www.mrbass.org/dvdrip/

    It will be the first software on the page. Also, make sure you save it to a cd or something so that you will have it just in case. You should also take a look at this guide for newer movies:

    http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=56078

    7.12.2005 21:13 #117

  • aabbccdd

    its also in the guides listed here

    http://bbmayo.home.comcast.net/

    make sur you turn off the automatic updates , everyone

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    7.12.2005 23:09 #118

  • JaguarGod

    @aabbccdd,

    I noticed a strange thing about the updates. It wants to connect to something.microsoft.com (even with auto update off, it still tries to update if I launch the program on XP, since it really relies on Windows settings to stop auto-update). Luckily I have a firewall, so I do not have to worry about the auto updating.

    Also, another thing that may help people out when ripping and burning, just disconnect from the internet. I didn't before, but I do now. Even if you do not do anything, there are still things going on that involves your internet connection, so it is just better to disconnet. I simply turn off my DSL modem when I do something involving a DVD. This is both safer and will reduce the potential of an error (I get lots of stuff blocked by my Firewall during the entire DVD Copying process).

    8.12.2005 08:12 #119

  • aabbccdd

    your right JaguarGod, we def, dont want DVDD talking to the internet at this point ,so good advice everyone turn off your internet connection when using the program

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    8.12.2005 08:41 #120

  • nonoitall

    Before, just out of paranoia, I'd disable my network connection (through which I connect to the 'net) but now I'm glad I did. :)

    8.12.2005 10:21 #121

  • shivang

    well weve all seen dvdd (R.I.P) dvdshrink dvdxcopy

    when is it goin 2 be slysoft`s turn.

    r.i.p DVD Decrypter the once ultimate dvd ripper :'(

    19.12.2005 17:50 #122

  • PCDAD

    My copy of DVDD never trys to access the web i have autoupdates for XP turned off and the check for new updates automaticly is unticked so ive not seen any suspicious behaviour there.........



    RIP DVDD

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    20.12.2005 02:06 #123

  • davidl1l

    i was useing dvd decyrip and shrink to do amatyville horror and when it got down to 5 files left it started to go up to 115 hours and 45 minutes...it kind of went crazy...also it wants to ask for internet access and im not sure why it does that...

    20.12.2005 07:54 #124

  • PCDAD

    BIZARRE!!!! weird

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    20.12.2005 12:51 #125

  • RayHenry

    You can get DVD Decrypter from this site.I just tryed it date today is the 21st Dec 2005 http://www.soft32.com/download-DVD_Decrypter-75586-5.html Happy download

    20.12.2005 23:41 #126

  • davidl1l

    yea thats what i thought...somethings up...i couldnt do the movie plus it did the same with the another movie.also it said the movie was 7.4 gb and i thought that was the problem.im not sure if that movie was that big.mabe the movie places are putting some extra codes or something to mess you up.i no theres other media to do these bigger movies but i didnt want to spend more money...

    21.12.2005 08:24 #127

  • JaguarGod

    @davidl1l,

    This movie has nothing specila on it. I think even DVD Shrink alone can handle this one. Mostl likely there is something wrong with the disc. Either a scratch, dirst, smudge, or bad pressing.

    21.12.2005 08:38 #128

  • sdifox

    Quote:sdifox
    example,i have a program installed that i bought called ACDSee a pix editor program,they claimed after the program quit working the license was not a good one,i had it blocked with my firewall...as all the programs are on my computer..they had a back door i did not know about.

    somehow they killed the program..i did call them and got it straighten out..but it took a week,they had to give me a new license.

    WORDS OF WISDOM

    People are discovering that when you buy any product that is subject to "activation", you haven't really bought anything.
    Really? acdsee with rootkit... humm, maybe I should look at it more closely. maybe it's another company that needs to be spanked.

    29" Sony from 1990 :)
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    Outlaw 750
    Def Tech BP-2000TL, C/L/R2000, BP-10B
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    JVC MD recorder /CD changer
    Technic 60+1 CD Changer
    1100+ DVD
    45+ DVD-A

    22.1.2006 19:09 #129

  • aabbccdd

    anydvd BLOCKS rootkit

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    22.1.2006 19:18 #130

  • RayHenry

    HEY---If you still want DVD Decrypter.3.5.4 I have found this site that lets you download it..http://www.soft32.com/download-DVD_Decrypter-75586-5.html So get it while you can....Working with AnyDVD,it will be all you need..and shrink......

    22.1.2006 22:53 #131

  • aabbccdd

    Ray you can download the program from a number of guides in here we have and if your using AnyDVD with DVD Decrypter set it up this way

    To use DVD Decrypter in conjunction with AnyDVD as stated per Olli ->OF SLYSOFT AND CloneDVD

    Proceed to the DVD Decrypter Opening Page - Tools - Settings

    I/O Tab - Click on "Elby CDIO-Elaborate Bytes"

    General Tab - un-check "Check For Structure Protection"

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    22.1.2006 23:04 #132

  • RayHenry

    Thank you for your advice....It was good of you to pass on your welcome help and experience.....Young RayHenry

    23.1.2006 01:24 #133

  • osi_p

    hi guys if u like i still got a copy of the dvd decrypter 3.5.4.0 I believe that we all have the damm right to decrypt dvd's so if u like send me a Email on edited by ddp and i'll send u the dvd decrypter
    regards osi

    4.10.2006 01:37 #134

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