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Online pirate sentenced to jail time

United States Attorney Mary Beth Buchanan has released a statement saying the 24 year old defendant Scott R. McCausland, one of three who operated a P2P network known as Elite Torrents has been sentenced to five months jail time and five months house arrest for providing illegal copyrighted material for download.

Part of a government agency sting operation codenamed D-Elite, the FBI and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) investigated and shut down their main website which was found to be a portal for file sharing copyrighted materials. The homepage of Elite Torrents was replaced with a message stating, "This Site Has Been Permanently Shut Down by the FBI and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE)". Within the first week, more than half a million page hits read that welcome message.



Elite Torrents had been known to be a valuable source of pre-release software, movies and games and was even noted for having the Star Wars III: Revenge of the Sith movie some six hours before the first theatrical viewing. Consequently, the file they provided was downloaded over 10,000 times in the next 24 hours. United States District Judge Sean J. McLaughlin did not look upon this lightly and stated that online pirates, "are not modern day Robin Hood’s, but rather common thieves motivated solely by the desire to get something for nothing."

Source:
Department of Justice

Written by: Dave Horvath @ 20 Dec 2006 5:40

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• 81 comments

• plutonash

  What a waste of taxpayers money. Couldnt all the money spent on this raid went to needy families or the homeless. While I hated the staff at Elites and didnt mind the site being shut down, but 5 months in jail seems a bit much. Also this statement is wrong on all kinds of levels, "are not modern day Robin Hood’s, but rather common thieves motivated solely by the desire to get something for nothing."

  20.12.2006 06:30 #1

• Bladework

  i agree,it was too much jail time for someone who didnt gained alot of money from it.
  
  and the statement, what does got to do with this?XD although they are kinda like robinhood bcoz they give the files for people who wants it and doesnt have the money for it and not gaining anything exept the thanks of people., "but rather common thieves motivated solely by the desire to get something for nothing." those people doesnt exist! we do something to gain something whatever it is

  20.12.2006 06:59 #2

• Letukka

  Didn´t they all plead guilty?

  20.12.2006 07:49 #3

• qace11

  
  why is FBI not going after Osama, but these so called pirates. there are bigger problems out there then pirates.
  

  20.12.2006 10:29 #4

• ZippyDSM

  Osama can be replaced plus the bush and .co were more interested in Iraq and totally screwing over the country to do it...

  20.12.2006 12:01 #5

• mnovus

  They are simply make an example of one person... Useless, as I see it, since there are god knows how many pirates around, especially here in the US. Bootlegging DVD's and getting gigs and gigs of music- for absolutely nothing- is just commonplace nowadays. I don't see how incarcerating one person is going to stop pirates from getting thier way. The Windows Media DRM movement has already proved this a failure.

  20.12.2006 12:50 #6

• borhan9

  After reading this, what i find ironic is what they claim as not a lite sentence. 10 months all up :) why dont they just give them community service for that amount of time. Or mayb to us aDers they were already doing a community service :P
  
  I say "Well Done" :D

  20.12.2006 12:59 #7

• BurningAs

  actaully they are modern day robin hoods against the evils of filty greedy corps. and hollywood

  20.12.2006 13:07 #8

• BurningAs

  actaully they are modern day robin hoods against the evils of filty greedy corps. and hollywood

  20.12.2006 13:07 #9

• domie

  I think some of you miss the point here in the same way that the RIAA has missed the point.
  
  For sure there are millions of people who download illegal files every day but how many of you and those millions would be prepared to register a website specialising in this stuff in your own name ?
  
  Precious few i imagine and that is the key for the FBI etc. by prosecuting and attacking the site owners, they ensure there are no web sites where 99.99 % of the people download their stuff from.
  
  Won't stop it totally, granted but it is certainly more effective cutting off the head than thousands of tentacles as the RIAA does.
  
  PS: I am not supporting what they do

  20.12.2006 13:12 #10

• borhan9

  @domie
  I know what your saying is valid but its a never ending cycle. Just because they cut off the head does not mean that the tenticale can not repreduce abd create another.

  20.12.2006 13:56 #11

• WierdName

  He was an idiot. He couldve only got 1 month if he commited a murder, rape, etc.

  20.12.2006 18:03 #12

• mnovus

  @ qace11
  
  For the same reason they produce Viagra instead of spending it on AIDS or HIV solutions... Money always has a way of working itself into the wrongs hands who in turn use it for seemingly useless purposes.
  
  Pirates vs. Osama
  Viagra vs. AIDS
  RIAA or the such vs. The People
  
  You get the picture.

  20.12.2006 18:22 #13

• pigfister

  well i think they should tackle the bootleggers as they are the ppl that are stealing from the music/movie industry. Most ppl i speak to would NOT have purchased the media as they are so disheartened but the constant release of crap and are fed up with wasting their cash for 1 or 2 good songs on an album or the trailer content on dvd's and 1- 3 hours of mind numbing steaming pile of poop.
  [url]http://www.theonion.com/content/node/27696[/url]

  21.12.2006 06:56 #14

• pigfister

  That link should have been this 1!
  
  http://www.theonion.com/content/node/27696

  21.12.2006 06:57 #15

• georgeluv

  they are DEFINATLY modern day robin hoods.
  
  they steal from the rich (and horrably greedy and totaly self serving): media conglomorates that the government refuses to moderate
  
  and they give to the poor: themselfs and anyone else who thinks 10 bucks is a rippoff and/or that movie theiters are a government endorced monopoly that doesnt deserve a dime.
  
  people who download movies for free are expressing a political view that they dont think media companies should be able to have such a stranglehold of or media delivery systems.
  
  why does the usa have the HIGHEST prices for broadband service with the lowest quality of service in the modern world?
  
  why do our tv shows have 18 comercial breaks per show when in every other country they have the common sence to make laws that sya they all have to be in one big comercial break at the end?
  
  how come our channels are censored wile they arent censored in any other modern country? we are told is the "evil fcc" but these companies love censorship, it forces people to pay extra for cable for a little less censorship, and then a little more extra for "premium" chanels to finaly get what i would consider to be normal adult content. if you cant afford two tiers of premium chanels then you are stuck with kid shows and 30% comercials that are evenly disburced amungst the ENTIRE show so you CANT avoid seeing them.

  21.12.2006 11:02 #16

• CiDaemon

  After all of the 1000+ lawsuits that have been filed against groups like this, including AllofMp3, torrent, p2p softwares, etc. how many have succeeded? This may be the first-ever victory for the media companies against "pirate" groups. If so, I don't mind: give them a timy victory now and then, so they get confident, even though they've lost 1000+ similar lawsuits. Face it; in the courts, the pirates have won already. The companies are trying to grab what they can, but they're waaay on the losing end.

  21.12.2006 11:50 #17

• wgnwheel

  Dude they don't give a fuck about Osama. They got what they wanted... A reason to force democracy on Iraq and finish Father W's old business. 9/11 was either set up or set up... Sounds like a major conspiracy huh? But honestly when you think about it look at all the shit the United States has intelligence on and in and has the power to do don't you think they would have found out anything by now? NO Bin Laden is forgotten... Still on top of the FBI list but you sure don't hear much about him anymore... And what you do hear about him is from the media... A tool for this government and lying conservative scumbags... And whats up with democrats backing the war all of a sudden? You wanna know what it is? Republicans and Democrats are the same people. Fuck the flag I'm burning the fucker and stringing my black flag high :)

  21.12.2006 14:00 #18

• fatgirl1

  This poor guy, is going to be a federal felon. He is only 24. He is not only going to federal prison, but house arrest, followed by 3years of federal probation. Drunk drivers, and child molesters get less time than this. This system is missed up. This will affect his future in everything, renting an appartment (people or appartment complexes do not rient to felons). Get a job will also be very hard...

  21.12.2006 14:37 #19

• duke8888

  If you can't do the time don't do the crime! The feds are now putting people in jail for pirate cd's and dvd's so for anyone who downloads from these sites be perpared for your door to come off its hinges when the feds come calling and they will! Anyone who supports this type of activity is subject to federal laws! Go rent the dvd and make a backup and this way they have no way of getting to you unless you are at the flea markets selling them out of your trunk!

  21.12.2006 15:54 #20

• MarcioAB

  That is like police in front of a huge running crowd and shot one single person, in the hope the rest go back home. Internet connections are multiplying world wide in an amazing speed. Broadband are getting really BROAD. The crowd will just pass through and police will shot some. What else to do ?

  21.12.2006 16:25 #21

• wgnwheel

  edited by ddp the USA. Thinking they own the world and edited by ddp. And edited by ddp Americans too. By that I mean some hardcore America edited by ddp type people.. Is this guy from overseas since the ICE was involved or what because if he is thats just edited by ddp wrong.. Duke8888 you've never downloaded ANYTHING in your life? Say you got caught for downloading ONE mp3. Would you bitch and whine about it? Yeah of course. But downloading it would still be illegal wouldn't it? And say you don't have the cd either. So if you can't pay the time don't do the crime. Doesn't matter if its past present or future if you were watched while doing it by someone in the FBI that always went according to the book you'd get busted. Yeah thats right. If you haven't downloaded anything congrats you're one of the few. Don't you love your grandma? Somewhere a grandma is downloading a Frank Sinatra song right now. :)

  21.12.2006 17:17 #22

• UNAx

  My Grandmaw dl's porn..

  21.12.2006 17:24 #23

• wgnwheel

  Wow that sucks that you know that... But yeah if she doesn't own that porn she can't download it dude. Hate to break it to you but if your grandma gets caught downloading it she will be exposed as the Grandma that dl's porn. Wouldn't you hate that? Ha. You are joking though right?

  21.12.2006 17:51 #24

• wgnwheel

  mnovus: For the same reason they produce Viagra instead of spending it on AIDS or HIV solutions... Money always has a way of working itself into the wrongs hands who in turn use it for seemingly useless purposes.
  
  Heh theres a cure.. They just make too much money off the medications and treaments that "keep you healthier" and "alive longer." Magic is still alive isn't he? You got the money they got the cure. Pharmaceuticals own a piece of US Govt in the first place so of course there is no cure for the middle class and there is no middle class to begin with. The only classes are filthy rich or stinking poor. And it also works as population control on the minorities which are considered problems which is why crack was administered heh and poor people which don't matter to them anyways but they are still able to make money off of them before they die. edited by ddp cowards... AIDS and HIV... Came out of nowhere in the late 60's or early 70's.. Government administered? You bet.

  21.12.2006 17:59 #25

• SCAMPER

  wgnwheel, let's stick to the subject and keep your ignorant views of Americans out of it.

  21.12.2006 19:05 #26

• wgnwheel

  HAHA ignorant? No my friend you are ignorant. I just see outside of a forced upon box and am not robot. But yeah I did go off subject but whatever. Who cares though? Do you know a lot of countries hate the US for valid reasons so the US decides that since somebody hates them they have to find something wrong with them or do something to hurt them? Freedom fries HAHA. That is ignorant. Being born just to die by their rules is ignorant.

  21.12.2006 20:40 #27

• ZippyDSM

  SCAMPER
  hes got a point exstream capitalism is hurting us a fcking lot.
  
  wgnwheel
  Socialism bans more things than US copertisisim at least for now ,when the corperations run all the world that will be a diffrent story.

  21.12.2006 20:43 #28

• wgnwheel

  True but thats just how governments with a "socialist" structure decide how to run things. The idea of true socialism is perfect.. If thats how things worked out. But more than often socialism is just a shitty excuse to run your country like shit and pretty much be a dictator. That why we should all just go back to our anarchic caveman roots and depend on ourselves and provide for ourselves. :) Individualism for sure. The only structure I believe in. Yeah a lot of shit would change but thats why it would never happen. Everyones too hooked on material stuff. Someday I'm gonna move to Canada or Holland and just build a cabin. It'll be awesome. Maybe when I'm older like older older. Also the US bans all the right things and approves all the wrong. Ehh did I mention I'm from Chicago? So yeah its not like people can be all like you're from another country dude shut up its like dude I live in the US and yes I don't like it and will leave and don't even try to compare this country to Cuba or Korea or whatever. Just shh.

  21.12.2006 21:09 #29

• ZippyDSM

  wgnwheel
  *L*
  between bush and co. and corpertions nawing at peoples rights we are less the domochercy we were 10 years ago.

  21.12.2006 21:18 #30

• wgnwheel

  BTW Zippy I'm just partially disagreeing I'm sure you know how opinions work without having to say they are ignorant.. Thats how Americans are.. Anything they disagree with has to be ignorant therefore making them ignorant ha ha. Thats why we fight pointless wars and sometimes theres nothing to fight over except the path to power and capital gain ha. Well no power and money for the citizens but always for the well beings of the politicians. Doesn't cost them a cent. They get paid to give bills for a war that now half of America doesn't agree with because of the money but where was the quarter of the half that don't agree before? Backing up the US. No morals didn't come into play. Nor did common sense of what was really going on. But hey you seem like a smart guy so yeah dude kudos. Why don't they crack down more on pedos instead of worrying about pirates. Pedos do the most harm. I'm sure 1/4 of them will or actually have committed a child related offense. Once again I'm assuming money comes into play. Wait no of course it does. Ha.

  21.12.2006 21:27 #31

• wgnwheel

  Very true. Unconstitutional bills being passed and so on. But when it comes down to it all whether it is a demo or rep running it they are all the same people different faces. Still rather have them dems in the house even though they are now backing the war too ha. But things would still be a little better. You know this next president if its a dem things are gonna suck for him/her because Bush is gonna leave one hell of a mess.. And has started quite awhile ago by passing a bunch of bull shit. If its a rep he/she will just pick up right after W left off. Hey at least Rumsfield is gone and it only makes sense that he took a lot of the blame and that Bush didn't stick up for him. Trying to save some face.

  21.12.2006 21:35 #32

• ZippyDSM

  wgnwheel
  I don't see dems/reps but plois wanting crackers IE votes they will change to any form that best gets them votes.
  
  with neither side givieng a damn about the middle class the country is dead no middle class means we becoem another 2nd work country the next "mexico"...

  21.12.2006 21:38 #33

• wgnwheel

  HAHAHA dude you hit it right on the nail. Yep same damn people. I wonder what would what happen if Nader won? That would rock the house man. It would be great. Man I can only dream...

  21.12.2006 21:47 #34

• ZippyDSM

  wgnwheel
  I would love to see a 3rd party becoem "legit" but frankly with lobbyisim as it is now in place why bother it will jsut becoem another head of the deformed poli hydra ;_;

  21.12.2006 21:52 #35

• wgnwheel

  Nader's campaign line: "You took a chance with both of the other parties. Don't like the way they do things? Take a chance with me. Guaranteed worst comes to worst I'll only be just like the other guys."

  21.12.2006 22:14 #36

• ZippyDSM

  wgnwheel
  true true

  21.12.2006 22:19 #37

• ChiefBrdy

  Until greed and the aquisition of wealth ceases to be the driving force of human existence, we will never mature that much beyond that of the caveman. We are just as ignorant, violent and barbaric today as we were 2000 years ago.

  22.12.2006 05:32 #38

• xterra458

  well where do I start!.....with the movie studios who rob me $5.50 for a small cup of soda and $6.oo for popcorn or $4.50 for a bag of candy where will it end. I will tell you when, when we just stop going and make them bankrupt!......I tell you since pirating music we sent a big message to the music industry that we won't be roobbed $20 for a fucking cd that cost them 5 cent's! Oh how the mighty have fallen!.....The big chain store tower records shut it's door!.......Know it's time to send these movie honchos a meessage .........we won't be robbed anymore!.....It's time to push the envalope and let the people be herd!......Boycott all movie theaters and cable companies and send them a message make the damn thing affordable or we don't want it!........I call on you my brothers and sisters send your message and let it be herd loud and clear!.....were tires of being robbed!......so know the shoe is on the other foot!

  22.12.2006 13:04 #39

• bomber991

  Quote:well where do I start!.....with the movie studios who rob me $5.50 for a small cup of soda and $6.oo for popcorn or $4.50 for a bag of candy where will it end. I will tell you when, when we just stop going and make them bankrupt!......I tell you since pirating music we sent a big message to the music industry that we won't be roobbed $20 for a fucking cd that cost them 5 cent's! Oh how the mighty have fallen!.....The big chain store tower records shut it's door!.......Know it's time to send these movie honchos a meessage .........we won't be robbed anymore!.....It's time to push the envalope and let the people be herd!......Boycott all movie theaters and cable companies and send them a message make the damn thing affordable or we don't want it!........I call on you my brothers and sisters send your message and let it be herd loud and clear!.....were tires of being robbed!......so know the shoe is on the other foot!Well, actually the movie companies are raping the theaters, and that's why the drinks and crap are so expensive. I don't think that the theater itself makes more than a dollar off of your ticket except for the expensive weekend night tickets. So I think that the theater basically runs itself like a fast food business, except it's one that charges $5 for a small soda and another $5 for a small popcorn.

  22.12.2006 15:56 #40

• duckNrun

  Just an off topic sidenote...
  
  Isn't it ignorant to be attempting to label some 250 MILLION people (americans) as thinking that anything they disagree with is ignorant...
  
  lol it's really a trick question wgnwheel. If you agree with the statement then you are agreeing that you are ignorant based upon your statement. If you disagree with the statement then you are only proving that your statement also applies to you.. hence you are still ignorant.
  
  And yes I did notice your 'only these type of americans' "disclaimer" way up in the top of the post above all the other all 'americans think' rants.
  
  :-)
  
  every, all, none, never, only and any other type of all inclusive or all exclusive prefix to an opinion or thought is really not a good way to argue (as in logic and debate); it only invites people to point out the obvious which is absolutes are never absolute (unless we're talking Vodka lol)
  
  ;-)
  
  

  22.12.2006 19:57 #41

• WierdName

  As with alot of things, the prices are high because the product passes through many people/companies before the end consumer. For everyone to make some money, the price is a little higher than the price for the person/company before so that the price is high once it gets to the end consumer.

  22.12.2006 22:05 #42

• wgnwheel

  HAHAHA good one dude. I did set myself up there and I think you know what I meant. But you can't get me there because I don't disagree with you or agree with you. Its my opinion which you can't change so why are you questioning it? And you know what I don't care about 250 million Americans and I don't care about America. Because the majority of Americans are that way. But actions from disagreements are really what matter who gives a fuck about thoughts so maybe I should have worded it differently. Thoughts do not harm unless they are spoken aloud and actions are executed according to the thoughts. Hitler. If he just hated the Jews and said nothing he would have hurt nobody but himself. Instead he acted upon his opinion and ended up using Germany at will.
  What I'm getting at is America tends to act upon how they feel which is most generally wrong so if feeling that way makes me ignorant too according to my statement then so be it but at least my ignorance is at the least and in all the right ways :) Plus at least I'm not a tool I know that for sure and that my friend you can not slap on me or take away from me ;)
  Maybe I should have said I'm the best so my statement doesn't apply to me and I don't consider myself an American either. Have fun with your country if you live in the fascist capital of Earth.
  
  Cheers.

  22.12.2006 22:40 #43

• Pittfan

  Long live the Pirate and George Lucas is a money hungry edited by ddp !...HOW MUCH PROFIET DO YOU NEED..
  Merry Christmas m8's :)

  23.12.2006 04:34 #44

• ChiefBrdy

  Are you on Crack?
  
  "HAHAHA good one dude. I did set myself up there and I think you know what I meant. But you can't get me there because I don't disagree with you or agree with you. Its my opinion which you can't change so why are you questioning it? And you know what I don't care about 250 million Americans and I don't care about America. Because the majority of Americans are that way. But actions from disagreements are really what matter who gives a fuck about thoughts so maybe I should have worded it differently. Thoughts do not harm unless they are spoken aloud and actions are executed according to the thoughts. Hitler. If he just hated the Jews and said nothing he would have hurt nobody but himself. Instead he acted upon his opinion and ended up using Germany at will.
  What I'm getting at is America tends to act upon how they feel which is most generally wrong so if feeling that way makes me ignorant too according to my statement then so be it but at least my ignorance is at the least and in all the right ways :) Plus at least I'm not a tool I know that for sure and that my friend you can not slap on me or take away from me ;)
  Maybe I should have said I'm the best so my statement doesn't apply to me and I don't consider myself an American either. Have fun with your country if you live in the fascist capital of Earth."
  
  

  23.12.2006 06:12 #45

• ChiefBrdy

  One common theme I've noticed in a lot of these RIAA type threads is people justifying why they download from p2p. "Send a message." "CD's are too expensive." "The music or movies are crap and not worth $9" "I'm tired of paying a lot for something that costs the manufacturer 5 cents." The list goes on.
  
  Reality: Most people download because they can It's easy. It's fast. And the number one reason, it's free. Period.

  23.12.2006 06:21 #46

• ZippyDSM

  ChiefBrdy
  so price and quality or out of printness of it means nothing?
  :P
  
  also abotu wgnwheel comments you have to do alittle reading underneath the underneath to understand what he is getting at.

  23.12.2006 06:25 #47

• xterra458

  Thus the revolution has begun and who will be victorius!

  23.12.2006 06:59 #48

• wgnwheel

  Ha ha. No the revolution needs to begin. edited by ddp needs to change. Crack? Actually I condone crack and where did the assumption that I'm on crack come from? How did anything I say not make sense? Also its not a matter of who wins on a forum I could give a edited by ddp what these guys think I believe in what I believe in and I feel what I believe is right. But still... Funny.

  23.12.2006 07:08 #49

• ZippyDSM

  wgnwheel
  crack is bad for you cocaine in the right amount is less so ^_~
  
  But really exstream fascicsim and capitalism are 2 sides of the same coin both lead to ban on free thought but for 2 different reasons.
  
  anyway it wouldn't be bad if the corperations changed and had more cheaply priced stuff online but they would rather alainante everyone by keeping to the past.

  23.12.2006 07:16 #50

• ChiefBrdy

  Of it. Of what? What are you talking about?
  
  "ZIppyDSM: so price and quality or out of printness of it means nothing?"
  
  There's no place deep enough to understand his incomprehensible babble. Nor yours for that matter. Read underneath the underneath? This is a thread, dude. Not a 7 day yoga retreat.
  
  "also abotu wgnwheel comments you have to do alittle reading underneath the underneath to understand what he is getting at."
  

  23.12.2006 07:26 #51

• ZippyDSM

  ChiefBrdy
  cant think for yourself do I have to spell it out for you?
  I mean I have to work on spelling and grammar but really paying price of movies and dvds could be balanced out more so they don't make you say WTF,moive prices could be lowered or at least reduce the price enough for snacks and sodas to be 50% less than they are now,if they do that then current DVD prices would be more reasonable at least in the 25 first year or 2 10-15 after that,they don't make back thier money from ticket sales least not most of the time its the DVD that usealy dose it.
  
  As they are DVD's could be reduced by 5-9$ to be between 11-15 instead of 20-30 but there are things they can do but wont do.
  
  As for out of print or hard to find video games/programs/comics can fit in that category try finding a obscure game 3-9 years after its released in some form of like new condition either they want 90$ for it or you get soemthign that might not work for 20$
  there are alot of reasons why it would be more profitable to make online communities where you pay a monthly or a small fee per download the corperations however hate this because they would lose some of their monopoly and god forbid they lose any money when they are brining in millions if not billions.

  23.12.2006 07:52 #52

• wgnwheel

  Incomprehensible babble?
  
  How can you not comprehend it? They may be rants but they aren't nonsense ha ha.
  
  As for downloaders... Keep downloading whatever it is that you do. Why contribute to capitalism even more?
  Who gives a edited by ddp what other people think and have to say about it just keep doing what you do...

  23.12.2006 08:01 #53

• wgnwheel

  Zippy btw you're right about yak being better but its something I tend to leave alone. Now danks is a different story. And maybe an 8th of caps everyone now and then but thats a completely different subject. More off subject then I was before.

  23.12.2006 08:05 #54

• ZippyDSM

  Originally posted by wgnwheel:Zippy btw you're right about yak being better but its something I tend to leave alone. Now danks is a different story. And maybe an 8th of caps everyone now and then but thats a completely different subject. More off subject then I was before.as long as you understand the amount of the drug(effects bad and good) and its "additive's"(soem drugs are cut/mixed with thigns worse than the drug itself) you should be fine :P
  
  I am a bit green for drug use the less "prossessed" the better *L*.
  (I dont do drugs my mind is fcked enough however I think most drugs should be made legal so that the cut/mix is done right as well as the purity of coarse our FDA cant manage imported food and drugs with questionable effects that take mameing or death to be pulled so meh)
  

  
  
  FIGHT THE M.A.F.I.A.A.
  Sony has declared war on importers the consumer will be next with CD's,Videos/Games not far behind that....boycott SONY!
  http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/8062.cfm

  23.12.2006 08:10 #55

• ChiefBrdy

  Your spelling is so bad, could you actually spell anything out?? Reading through your world record run-on sentence. What you say is nothing but BS. If you don't like the price. Don't watch, don't buy, don't rent. A lot of things in this world are overpriced. People either buy them or they don't. But you and so many others like you try to come off as THAT's the main reason you p2p. Pleeeeze. Who are you kidding.
  
  I'm not judging. P2P rocks. But enough with the poor me BS.
  
  "ZIppyDSM (AfterDawn Addict) 23 December 2006 cant think for yourself do I have to spell it out for you?
  I mean I have to work on spelling and grammar but really paying price of movies and dvds could be balanced out more so they don't make you say WTF,moive prices could be lowered or at least reduce the price enough for snacks and sodas to be 50% less than they are now,if they do that then current DVD prices would be more reasonable at least in the 25 first year or 2 10-15 after that,they don't make back thier money from ticket sales least not most of the time its the DVD that usealy dose it.
  
  As they are DVD's could be reduced by 5-9$ to be between 11-15 instead of 20-30 but there are things they can do but wont do.
  
  As for out of print or hard to find video games/programs/comics can fit in that category try finding a obscure game 3-9 years after its released in some form of like new condition either they want 90$ for it or you get soemthign that might not work for 20$
  there are alot of reasons why it would be more profitable to make online communities where you pay a monthly or a small fee per download the corperations however hate this because they would lose some of their monopoly and god forbid they lose any money when they are brining in millions if not billions."
  

  23.12.2006 08:16 #56

• ChiefBrdy

  From the residue of sense I was able to muster from your posts, it seems like you do.
  
  wgnwheel 23 December 2006 13:01
  Who gives a edited by ddp what other people think and have to say about it just keep doing what you do...

  23.12.2006 08:18 #57

• ZippyDSM

  ChiefBrdy
  the fact you wont sit down and "read" it speaks for itself.
  

  
  
  FIGHT THE M.A.F.I.A.A.
  Sony has declared war on importers the consumer will be next with CD's,Videos/Games not far behind that....boycott SONY!
  http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/8062.cfm

  23.12.2006 08:34 #58

• wgnwheel

  Okay first off what does grammar have to do with anything as long as his point is valid? Which it is and thats his opinion and you have yours. Second you're still not telling me what doesn't make sense so I'm just gonna have to assume you don't know. Third quit looking for faults in my posts and get off my edited by ddp. Fourth dude I'm not looking for a "flame war" so once again quit looking for faults and get off my edited by ddp. Fifth what I said applied to downloading but if you want to make that apply to everything if I keep doing and believing in everything I think is right is that actually caring about what someone else thinks? No because I'm not letting that affect me. Sixth this edited by ddp is done. I can post whatever I want to post unless I'm banned which I'm probably halfway there without having you scavenge what I say looking for something wrong or claiming it doesn't make sense.

  23.12.2006 09:01 #59

• ZippyDSM

  wgnwheel
  I try and not flame..but sometimes the world gets to you....grammar Nazis and people who think "oh you an learn the controls" of a game that should normally learn ok you know I am learning disabled I am either really good or really bad and Halo2 2 controls are not made for south paws sure the analog sticks are swapable but the buttons they do not a move....meaning you can not jump and do other things like a normal "default" player...*sigh*
  
  I am also getting tired of being bitch at that options are not needed in games,button mapping no,sound volume options no its like options are fcking bad thing....
  

  23.12.2006 09:13 #60

• wgnwheel

  Its all good dude. Yeah I've noticed how people always point out slightly bad spelling to try to gain the "upper hand." But what you type is completely understandable so yeah dude. I can understand if someone doesn't actually get it but thats not the case. Btw pot is what keeps me sane and mellow for the most part. And the legalization of drugs... Theres plenty of states making it so if you carry under an o you're in the clear but they might take your buds and the use of medicinal marijuana which is dank as hell. But national legalization? Probably wont happen for a long time if it even does... They would lose out on a lot of money upon legalization because of the benefits of pot and the usefulness of hemp. If everyone in the world smoked pot and it was growing everywhere and it was legal... The world would be a mellower place ha ha. But yeah I don't mess with crack and I have some friends that do coke more probably more than what they say they do so I know if I touch any of that its pure but I hate the comedowns so yeah. I don't really like edited by ddp like that. Shrooms and buds are pretty much my choice.

  23.12.2006 09:39 #61

• ZippyDSM

  wgnwheel
  you have to remember the balance tho once drugs become legit and are priced to close as what the are prices would coem down importation of illict drugs would fall so would drug crime in the long run you'd probably save more legalizing it and creating more rehab places then mindlessly pouring money into the "war on drugs".
  
  you are right tho much like a fair tax/regulation on personal backing up of "data" it wont happen the corperations wont let it,they make money off legal drugs by creating "fixs" for them and they make money off overcharging on stuff.
  its lose lose for the consumer/populace when corperations have to much control.

  23.12.2006 09:47 #62

• wgnwheel

  Oh yeah dude trust me I know the benefits of legalizing some drugs and some others should just stay the way they are. Such as coke, smack, and especially meth which have no benefits and would create an even more deranged America but then again if everyone could get their fix legally maybe it wouldn't be a full blown hell. People would just die faster, more car accidents, etc. But yeah with legalization of cannabis people would stop going to prison for petty offenses from a beneficial plant. I don't think importing would stop though if it became legal because it wouldn't be illegal unless they made new customs laws. If they didn't then we could always get some good edited by ddp bud from Holland ha ha. But yeah dude in Cali medicinal is about the same as street price but if it was nationally legalized then you would have state and government tax instead of just state and I doubt it would ever be close to street price but who knows you know? But yeah other than just possesion related charges crime related to drug cartels with pounds of pot would drop and cops would stop having to edited by ddp with pot smokers and actually do something that is contributing to their city or state or whatever.

  23.12.2006 10:01 #63

• ZippyDSM

  wgnwheel
  I dunno coke is not as bad some say the amount/purity and what its cut with dose the most damage same for LSD and other party drugs coke in high ammoutns ya thats pretty bad and the few other drugs that have a insane addictive ratio on them probably best to make them prescribable and if the DR has a few patinas dieing they lose their licence there are ways to balance it out but first and foremost OMG pot should not be illegal WTF do we have viagra giveing old guys hard ons and pot a plant ou can grow int he ground and easily cook/make that has effects eaqul to drinking and smoking combined and its illissisct because pruds cant get the pine out of the their arse ><
  
  anyone who has seen what chemo can do to a person should understand that pot should at the least be made available to them of corse the coperations dont want people living longer if they can make money of pot replacements not to emntion the helthcare system dosent want to keep alive the majority of people that cant afford their canser....ok ok I will stop now >>

  23.12.2006 10:23 #64

• ChiefBrdy

  The both of you should be in a mental institution or rehab. Grammer and spelling aside, you have the brains of a donut.

  23.12.2006 10:51 #65

• ZippyDSM

  ChiefBrdy
  donuts are yummy ^0^
  
  and no amount of popper spelling and grammar will save you from the "real world" have a good day livieng in your fake wold I know I am *naws on the side of the house its made of candy*

  23.12.2006 11:06 #66

• ChiefBrdy

  ZIppyDSM,
  
  What is a wold? Did you mean to say popper that's popular among gays? Or pooper? Do you need to take a break?
  
  Oh yeah. One last thing. You must be very careful too. It's dangerous but essential. After heading west for 41 minutes, stop at the yellow sign. Wait there for 12 minutes. Drive another 2 miles and stop again. You'll see a man with one leg in the street. Hand him the brown satchel and tell him "The condor is ready to fly." Good luck.

  23.12.2006 11:24 #67

• ZippyDSM

  ChiefBrdy
  Mmmm yet again fire fox has found words that it can not spell right
  
  pooper-proper
  wold-world
  
  besides any idiot can fill in the blanks I guess you are simply not idiot enough *L*
  
  but then my idiotisim goes double negative 0.o

  23.12.2006 11:31 #68

• xterra458

  Burn baby Burn!
  

  23.12.2006 11:51 #69

• medic33

  To Chiefbrdy! Kiss my proud american ass you!!! You Are an Idiot!!!

  23.12.2006 12:31 #70

• ChiefBrdy

  medic33,
  
  What is an "ass you"? Are you gay that you want a man to play with your ass? Try a bar, dude.

  23.12.2006 13:15 #71

• ChiefBrdy

  Bottom line. All this "poor me. we're gonna show em" crap is just that; crap. If only they'd cut the price in half, if only they'd_______fill in the blank.
  
  BS! It's about getting something for free. Nothing wrong with that. It just is what it is.

  23.12.2006 13:19 #72

• ChiefBrdy

  ZIppyDSM, wgnwheel (newbie), medic33 (newbie)..All the same person. LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  23.12.2006 13:24 #73

• ChiefBrdy

  How do I know. Because it couldn't be a coincidence that all three of you write like you have an IQ of 1. LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  23.12.2006 13:26 #74

• xterra458

  I tought this blog was supposed to be about the online pirate that was sentenced to jail time not ass this crap that people are fighting about. Let's get back to the main topic and leave your mindless bickering at home where it belongs.

  23.12.2006 15:06 #75

• wgnwheel

  Dude I don't even have to say anything. :)

  23.12.2006 16:46 #76

• SCAMPER

  Congrats, xterra458. I agree that many in the movie industry are way over paid, self serving people. However when a movie is circulated before its release, many jobs of people working pay check to pay check are at risk. McCausland knew the consequences when he put these jobs at risk; I think house arrest is not too harsh. The overpaid actors won't miss the profits, but the guys on a paycheck will. If we don't see or support these movies that will send a message.

  23.12.2006 17:23 #77

• ddp

  wgnwheel, lightning struck!! posts edited & thread closed as it was way off topic.

  23.12.2006 18:03 #78

• medic33

  ChiefBrdy, Gay??? That's the best you can come up with? You talk a lot of shit for some little geek that hides behind his Walmart bought computer and jacks off to porn all day. Does your mommy know what you do online all day behind closed doors? Maybe you should spend your time doing something a little more worth while then opening up your mouth and bashing Americans!!!

  24.12.2006 05:49 #79

• MarcioAB

  So, is there any conclusion ? It seems pirates in jail will inflate more people, that will ..

  24.12.2006 09:12 #80

• KingNot

  I can totally understand fining people for these types of crimes, but jail time?! These grees addicts are just going too far.

  27.12.2006 13:05 #81