what exactly are you going to record with it? both blu-ray and hd-dvd have anti copying DRM embedded, more so with blu-ray is BD+ takes DRM to a whole new level of anti consumer, even if it did copy it would be downscaled or if its the tv you want to record off, forget it after sony and fellow studios get even more drm embedded into all digital broadcasts.
http://www.eff.org/IP/DVB/dvb_briefing_paper.php
http://www.eff.org/IP/DVB/
http://www.eff.org/IP/fairuse/
27.9.2007 08:16 #1
Thats what I was thinking you cant copy your own BD so whats the point.
27.9.2007 08:40 #2
Originally posted by nobrainer: what exactly are you going to record with it? You can record terrestrial or satellite HDTV broadcasts and footage from some tape-based HD camcorders.
27.9.2007 08:44 #3
Originally posted by eatsushi: Originally posted by nobrainer: what exactly are you going to record with it? You can record terrestrial or satellite HDTV broadcasts and footage from some tape-based HD camcorders.at the moment you can but if you read through the eff pages the drm lobbies, aka sony, fox and disney, want to stop this and lock it down completely!
27.9.2007 11:05 #4
Quote:Originally posted by eatsushi: Originally posted by nobrainer: what exactly are you going to record with it? You can record terrestrial or satellite HDTV broadcasts and footage from some tape-based HD camcorders.at the moment you can but if you read through the eff pages the drm lobbies, aka sony, fox and disney, want to stop this and lock it down completely!They can't stop it.
And where's that Hugh guy?
27.9.2007 12:43 #5
Why do the Japanese get all the good stuff?
Here's Toshiba's HD DVD recorder also with a 1 terabyte hard drive:
http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/22/toshi...-with-1tb-disk/
27.9.2007 13:03 #6
What is the point?
With disks at 20 bucks a pop and 1TB of stotage, why use the Blu-ray disk at all?
27.9.2007 13:05 #7
Originally posted by nobrainer: what exactly are you going to record with it? both blu-ray and hd-dvd have anti copying DRM embedded, more so with blu-ray is BD+ takes DRM to a whole new level of anti consumer - Basically it's a DVR with a decent sized HDD that can also play Blu-ray discs for $2600.
Typical Blu-ray 'value'.
ROFLMAO.
27.9.2007 16:05 #8
Originally posted by hughjars: - Basically it's a DVR with a decent sized HDD that can also play Blu-ray discs for $2600.
Typical Blu-ray 'value'.Well Toshiba's got it beat with the RD-A1 for $3,400.
http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/22/toshi...-with-1tb-disk/
27.9.2007 16:22 #9
Actually my AV dealer had the opportunity to get a first hand look at the Toshiba RD-A1 when he went to Japan last year. He describes it as a "good-looking piece of hardware" and at more than 30 lbs one of the sturdiest built players he's ever seen - comparable to the build quality of the top of the line Pioneer Elites and Denons.
The new Sharp BluRay recorders look flimsy in comparison.
27.9.2007 16:35 #10
Quote:Originally posted by hughjars: - Basically it's a DVR with a decent sized HDD that can also play Blu-ray discs for $2600.
Typical Blu-ray 'value'.Well Toshiba's got it beat with the RD-A1 for $3,400.
" target="_blank">http://www.engadget.com/2006/06/22/toshi...b-disk/
You cant compare that, the article is over 14 months old, there is no way the price is anywhere near that anymore.
27.9.2007 21:03 #11
Originally posted by DVDBack23: You cant compare that, the article is over 14 months old, there is no way the price is anywhere near that anymore.Comparing prices at product launch is valid. Of course the Toshiba will be cheaper now since it launched last year. Besides, based on the build quality of the machine and based on the impressive specs, IMO it's definitely worth the price. Even I would consider buying one if they only released it here.
28.9.2007 04:28 #12
Originally posted by error5: Comparing prices at product launch is valid. - Yeah but that Toshiba (incredibly high-end as it was/is......30lbs! wow talk about an isolated, stable & non-vibratatory drive) wasn't just costly cos of it's own 'product launch' pricing but the format itself was absolutely brand new too.
That doesn't apply now, obviously.
28.9.2007 04:35 #13
Originally posted by nobrainer: what exactly are you going to record with it? both blu-ray and hd-dvd have anti copying DRM embedded, more so with blu-ray is BD+ takes DRM to a whole new level of anti consumer, even if it did copy it would be downscaled or if its the tv you want to record off, forget it after sony and fellow studios get even more drm embedded into all digital broadcasts.
Um, mate you can record onto 50gig blank Blu-Ray disks they won't have DRM on them....
The only thing to have DRM would be the TV signals coming through to the recorder, if that is the case, you can get around this though.
28.9.2007 08:04 #14
Originally posted by xtago: Um, mate you can record onto 50gig blank Blu-Ray disks they won't have DRM on them.... - That depends entirely on what it is that you've recorded, the major & obvious purpose (backing up Blu-ray movies) is totally out.
In fact has anyone seen the pdf of the manual cos if its like the Sony S300 Blu-ray stand-alone it will say that it cannot even play the blank media, BD -R or BD -RE, discs.
(see the Sony S300 pdf, page 6)
28.9.2007 08:32 #15
Originally posted by error5: Originally posted by DVDBack23: You cant compare that, the article is over 14 months old, there is no way the price is anywhere near that anymore.Comparing prices at product launch is valid. Of course the Toshiba will be cheaper now since it launched last year. Besides, based on the build quality of the machine and based on the impressive specs, IMO it's definitely worth the price. Even I would consider buying one if they only released it here.Certainly not comparable, its like comparing an original DVD player to one released last year...HD has come a long since that player and there is no way it would be priced the same if released today :)
28.9.2007 13:21 #16
Alot of storage for a media device. How are you supposed to fill that.
28.9.2007 22:45 #17
Originally posted by borhan9: Alot of storage for a media device. How are you supposed to fill that. - Your Jpeg & MP3 collection?
lol
29.9.2007 03:10 #18
Quote:Originally posted by borhan9: Alot of storage for a media device. How are you supposed to fill that. - Your Jpeg & MP3 collection?
lolMy mp3 collection is only 5gigs so far on my 30gig ipod :P I have a long way to go before anything however i can see it work for video. :)
30.9.2007 17:24 #19
