Thousands of fans sign a "save HD DVD" petition

So far, over six thousand HD DVD fans have signed an online petition that is urging, maybe pleading, for Warner Home Entertainment to reconsider its decision to drop the next gen format in favor of Blu-ray.

The petition, first posted two weeks ago, takes issue with Warner's press release that explains that the "consumer has clearly chosen Blu-ray," and instead points out HD DVD's lower hardware prices and "better technological capabilities." The petition also says the format is more consumer and user friendly than its rival.

Supporters are hoping that the petition will convince Warner to change its mind on the decision and that it will also prove that HD DVD still has many supporters.

Written by: Andre Yoskowitz @ 21 Jan 2008 18:48

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70 comments

rcd87

signing this aint gonna make much difference at all, like warner are gonna change their mind because 6,000 people went and signed a petition, maybe if these people went and bought 3 or 4 hddvds each they could show warner that hddvd isn't dying by boosting there disc sales

21.1.2008 19:12 #1

camaro17

title should say, "Retarded fanboys trying to save a shitty(and dead) format" lol

Peace

21.1.2008 19:32 #2

mlsgiant

People shouldn't sign **it. Lets all do everybody a favor and end this format war SOON. I have both formats and have to go with Blu-ray. I'm sick and tried of buying HD-DVDs for Universal Pictures films only and Parmount's Tranformers. Blu-Ray all the way!

21.1.2008 19:49 #3

pensfan12

Whats a petition going to do? the consumers have made up there mind so they jumped ship. Bad luck to the idiots that thought HD DVD would win and bought players and movies.

21.1.2008 20:37 #4

red2tango

fanboys signed that shit including the biggest one on afterdawn _______

21.1.2008 21:20 #5

PetahG

Ill just not buy either of them and wait until this shit is all over, but just to put on record id rather have hd dvd win, since sony seems to do way too many firmware updates and screw over their consumers once in a while, like with the psp.
I know my decision is very bias and also not based on any strong facts, but thats just how I feel about this matter.

21.1.2008 21:34 #6

canuckerz

There's petitions out there for everything they're sad and they never work. The only time a petition works is if the company tells you that if u get X amount of signatures they'll do something.

21.1.2008 21:43 #7

Shinraboy

Pathetic.

21.1.2008 21:46 #8

windsong

Blu-Ray or HD-DVD...dont matter to me which one wins, as both play nicely from my hard drive with PowerDVD. :)

21.1.2008 21:46 #9

_H06_

Originally posted by camaro17: title should say, "Retarded fanboys trying to save a shitty(and dead) format" lol

Peace I agree 100%

21.1.2008 21:53 #10

DXR88

Im sure they have there reasons aside from the Obvios for a petition.
i dont care anymore this format war is over. i backed hd-dvd several times,quite frankly they deserve to loose. they had a bad market stratgy, they didnt care anyway they gave up 2 years into the format war.

Hd-dvd did have its Performance over price ratio. HD-dvd was right consumers want cheap, but average joe isnt gunna know what it is or even exists for that matter, if theres no ADs

21.1.2008 22:00 #11

chaos_zzz

Originally posted by Shinraboy: Pathetic.true

21.1.2008 22:48 #12

cartucho

this demonstrates weakness in the format.. people need to write letters to producers to make them support the product!! hahahaah what a joke!!

21.1.2008 22:55 #13

vinny13

LMAO!!! I wonder who started this one...

22.1.2008 01:17 #14

vinny13

Originally posted by DXR88: Im sure they have there reasons aside from the Obvios for a petition.
i dont care anymore this format war is over. i backed hd-dvd several times,quite frankly they deserve to loose. they had a bad market stratgy, they didnt care anyway they gave up 2 years into the format war.

Hd-dvd did have its Performance over price ratio. HD-dvd was right consumers want cheap, but average joe isnt gunna know what it is or even exists for that matter, if theres no ADsI agree %110. How are you gonna sell something when no one knows about it. They treat it like it was on the Black Market or somethin'...

22.1.2008 01:21 #15

ripxrush

i own 8 hd dvd's some of us did buy a few that is more movies that i have bought in a while!

22.1.2008 01:59 #16

SamNz

Quote:Originally posted by camaro17: title should say, "Retarded fanboys trying to save a shitty(and dead) format" lol

Peace I agree 100%mee too, and whoa 6000 is so many ppl, wtf u need like MILLIONS, f**kn MILLIONS

22.1.2008 02:28 #17

hade

may seem like a bit when you first read this but when one considers the numbers its not really that large. there are around 1 million HD-DVD players sold, meaning there are 1 million owners. 6k of them signed a petition which translates to .006 percent. for some reason i think its only a matter of time before someone starts a pro blu petition, well actually just a memo congratulating warner's move.

the terms have been set and undisclosed to the public, the petition is simply a pathetic attempt at nothing, and a waste of time.

i pity those who signed it, one thing people must FULLY UNDERSTAND is this MARKET is not a DEMOCRACY. writing petitions, whining to congressmen, calling whomever is simply not going to change anything. the writing is on the wall and for w/e reason quite a large pill for some, the MINORITY to swallow

22.1.2008 02:34 #18

Blackjax

Funny how the fanbboy comments are flying about.
Anyone buying into the hype from either side isn't looking at the big picture!
Try reading the other articles on AD and see if you can put two and two together.

*Hint* It has to do with broadband, movie studios and your wallet!

22.1.2008 04:02 #19

Rosetta

Quote:Originally posted by camaro17: title should say, "Retarded fanboys trying to save a shitty(and dead) format" lol

Peace I agree 100%Got it in one lmao, like they even buy dvd's ill bet they all download their movies :P

22.1.2008 06:23 #20

hughjars

.....about as "retarded" & "pathetic" as the Blu-ray fanclub's petition over Paramount, right?

Though they'll never admit it HD DVD is far from "sh!tty".

Unlike Blu-ray HD DVD is the complete article offering a proper range of players at a proper range of price & spec.

Blu-ray offers......an over-priced game console which is a flop in it's own market.

The Blu-ray fanclub can talk up their preferred format all they like but this is all far from over.

Anyone seeing Universal's Ken Graffeo's recent interview (HD DVD Is Here To Stay) can see that HD DVD is not about to vanish from the scene.
http://www.betanews.com/article/Intervie...stay/1200951636

22.1.2008 07:07 #21

7thsinger

I'll be happy when the format war is over: Then we don't have to read pages and pages of flaming fanboy comments on aD! ;D

22.1.2008 08:48 #22

goodswipe

Yea I'm going to have to agree with you on that one 7th, I mean, this whole so called format war has just brought out the worst in people. Some people that just should never put there fingers on a keyboard are hoppen on here and just making fools of themselves.

As for the petition, not going to work, nice to see that there are dedicated supporters out there though.

Heres a great LINK everyone should read...

22.1.2008 10:17 #23

lxfactor

when HD DVD is losing.. warn a brother.. =]

22.1.2008 10:18 #24

lxfactor

lol good.. i seen it said zippy.. im like whaaa where? but you corrected. but i caught you.. just wanted u to know. =D

22.1.2008 10:20 #25

pirkster

Anyone else see the laugh out loud irony in hughjars linking to an article on "beta" news?

Videodiscs didn't disappear for a while. Neither did Laserdiscs. Betamax had a long run even after they were defeated by VHS.

HD DVD limping into the future doesn't equate to them being viable or healthy in the long run.

It's crystal clear that some early adopters are very bitter and angry that their bet didn't pay off (while those of us who haven't sunk themselves into either format just yet have clearly made the wisest choice.) Apparently they started celebrating too early and had their hearts set on pointing their fingers in the nose of those who chose wrong. Little did they know they would ultimately be on the other end of that finger. That's the problem/risk when you choose to participate in such a silly fanboy "war."

7thsinger - the fanboys/haters will never go away. It's a personality flaw where one willingly adopts the "mine's the best, yours stinks" mentality. The war is not over, not just yet. But the tide has definitley shifted. But that also doesn't necessarily mean there won't be some ebb to that tide as well. There are still a few moves left to be made before HD DVD is officially loses the chess match.

22.1.2008 10:23 #26

goodswipe

Originally posted by lxfactor: lol good.. i seen it said zippy.. im like whaaa where? but you corrected. but i caught you.. just wanted u to know. =Dlol, yea, I had just read a comment he had left on another thread and for some reason the name stuck in my head.

22.1.2008 10:30 #27

7thsinger

Quote:7thsinger - the fanboys/haters will never go away. It's a personality flaw where one willingly adopts the "mine's the best, yours stinks" mentality. The war is not over, not just yet. But the tide has definitley shifted. But that also doesn't necessarily mean there won't be some ebb to that tide as well. There are still a few moves left to be made before HD DVD is officially loses the chess match.
Agree. Fanboys/haters are here to stay, and when the format war is over they will herd on over to something else to flame about. It just gets ridiculous sometimes reading pages and pages of retarded flaming.

The way i've tried to view the whole format war is to first, take comfort in having a choice. Having choices is good for consumers in a variety of ways. It promotes a healthy competition of value:price index.

Secondly, the format war has kept prices slightly more reasonable than they might be if one format or another had already dominated and subsequently owned that corner of the market.

Maybe this is all just me trying to have a positive take on the war and not choosing sides and bantering with people as hard-headed, rude, and sometimes even as cocky and foul mouthed as some of the ones present in these ongoing discussions.

My life never began with "once upon a time" so why would i expect it to end with "happily ever after"?

22.1.2008 10:46 #28

banned2X

SIGN IT IN BLOOD!!!!!!!!!!! Doesn't matter anyway as they are both here to stay. Been sayin' it all along. HD-DVD still has 35% of the market, enough to keep it seriously alive. Why do any boneheads out there care anyway? Dual format players are the answer and they're awesome too. 2 different formats both with different features, fun an no harm to anyone. If you're seriously on the "blu-ray" train (which I agree is more technologically advanced and hence the encryption and limitation of use) then maybe you all should stop, think and question your motives for really being so gung ho about it. Kinda like the old days of long distance phone carriers and the emerging competition for at&t. Do you give give a crap who your provider is as long as it's a reasonably clear connection and a cheap price? If you answer yes to this then consider politics because they all do things for no good reason too.

22.1.2008 15:20 #29

goodswipe

Originally posted by banned2X:
If you're seriously on the "blu-ray" train (which I agree is more technologically advanced and hence the encryption and limitation of use) lol...all I can say.

HD-DVD...keep the dream alive!

22.1.2008 15:30 #30

cartucho

Well i donlt knwo about toshiba but you got to give it to SONY.. those clowns making 200000 plus at the company know what they were doing with the blueray and the ps3.. let face it standaone blueray is probably not as popular as the gaming machine.. literally for the same price you buy a gaming system plus you get the player.. when ps3 launch everyone complain about prices adn everoen predicted sony was doomed .. but you knwo what.. game division is back in the game and the format is finally taking a huge lead over hd dvd to the point where we can say good bye to hddvd.. Guess what, the advantage came when blueray playes started to be distributed all over the world when plp were literally buying a gaming system.. is a double strategy!!.. now sony is making cash on movies, blueray tech, and the playstation game division.. DAMN!! i wish i was that smart ,.. sony CEO you are my HERO!!! by the way imigine if microsoft would have make an agrrement with toshiba to include an hddvd built in on every 360.. then there woul dbe a shi* load of players everywhere and they story would have change.

22.1.2008 16:07 #31

banned2X

Quote:Originally posted by banned2X:
If you're seriously on the "blu-ray" train (which I agree is more technologically advanced and hence the encryption and limitation of use) lol...all I can say.
All you can say is what?? Let's hear the lame comment you have yet to make. It's apparent what you're getting at.

Of course it's more technologically advanced but NOT IN ANY FRAKKIN' WAY THE END USER CAN TELL!! Only in ways like 1. That require a complete and total revamp and reconstruction of disc stamping plants and 2. For studios to mandate and/or implement their copyright initiatives prohibiting the consumer from doing whatever he/she would like to do to the merchandise once purchased............INCLUDING YOU! And in case you or any others out there have been living under a rock or 'shroom, HD-DVD is way more feature rich. I am NOT pro HD-DVD or pro Blu-ray. I recognize two apparent good things and the ease of the manufacturer's ability to develop hardware that can easily integrate both technologies. I have a great deal of respect for both formats and it's Samsung and LG that brought about the innovation of the 'dual format' players and they will soon and inevitably come WAYYYYYYYYY down in price for the average consumer inside a year.

So back up the smack talking and do tell as to what the "technological advancements" that blu-ray has over HD-DVD that would influence anyone (especially you) to buy and root ONLY FOR SONY and wish death to HD-DVD (even though it presently offers more fun and interactive features). Hmmmmmmmm???? You like the copyright?? You like the machines better that stamp them out?? Lemme guess...........you're looking at putting a stamping machine in your living room therefore blu-ray is your thing.

Gimme a break.

22.1.2008 16:52 #32

goodswipe

Ok, I obviously took your statements the wrong way when you said that "Blu-ray was technologically more advanced". I was laughing at the fact that it's not. If that was some attempt at being funny, sorry, but I didn't see the humor behind it other then the fact that it's completely the other way around. I myself back HD DVD so no need to argue, do you want to shake my hand?

HD-DVD...keep the dream alive!

22.1.2008 17:02 #33

banned2X

Originally posted by goodswipe: Ok, I obviously took your statements the wrong way when you said that "Blu-ray was technologically more advanced". I was laughing at the fact that it's not. If that was some attempt at being funny, sorry, but I didn't see the humor behind it other then the fact that it's completely the other way around. I myself back HD DVD so no need to argue, do you want to shake my hand?First.......must pass on apologies for any misunderstanding or miscommunications.

Second, actually Blu-ray is more technologically advanced. In the encoding/transcoding, stamping, reading/writing process it truly is. This being the reason that many studios are on board with it...........due to it's ability to maintain a 'lockdown'

This according to www.blu-ray.com

"The first is capacity. Because Blu-ray utilizes a lens with a greater numerical aperture (NA) than HD-DVD, the laser spot can be focused with greater precision to fit more data on the same size disc. This allows Blu-ray to hold 25GB per layer (50GB on a dual-layer disc), whereas HD-DVD can only hold 15GB per layer (30GB on a dual-layer disc). Blu-ray has also adopted a higher data transfer rate for video and audio (54Mbps vs 36.55Mbps). The greater capacity and data transfer rates for Blu-ray will allow the movie studios to release their movies with higher quality video and audio than the HD-DVD format."

............so it is in fact more "technologically advanced" than HD-DVD. BETTER?? I DON"T THINK SO. Equal at best! Both rock, both should and WILL stay. Dual formats are the way people. Been sayin' it for months.

22.1.2008 18:12 #34

solarf

yeah dual format does sound like the way to go. But I believe both are here to stay.

22.1.2008 21:34 #35

vinny13

How could they go dual format???

Both formats are very different and it would drive production costs through the roof making each movie more expensive.

The faster they switch to a single format the less people they're gonna hurt.

22.1.2008 22:05 #36

Nephilim

tester22 if you come back again before your suspension is up I'll permanently ban your existing account and every other one you show up with.

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22.1.2008 23:58 #37

scorpNZ

They oughta make an HD floppy disk,coz floppys pwns all :p

23.1.2008 01:08 #38

vinny13

Originally posted by scorpNZ: They oughta make an HD floppy disk,coz floppys pwns all :pYa floppy rules! they should make the really huge ones that the old Commodore had :P

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23.1.2008 10:36 #39

kjvsword

Originally posted by vinny13: How could they go dual format???
Dual format players not discs. Having dual format players would allow each side to work independently on their own formats.

23.1.2008 10:53 #40

banned3x

Quote:Originally posted by vinny13: How could they go dual format???
Dual format players not discs. Having dual format players would allow each side to work independently on their own formats.agreed............DUAL FORMAT PLAYERS PEOPLE, NOT DISCS.

23.1.2008 11:30 #41

banned3x

Originally posted by Nephilim: tester22 if you come back again before your suspension is up I'll permanently ban your existing account and every other one you show up with.
I'm not 'tester22' so to be fair to some other poor sole.........you should rethink your associating me with whomever that is.

And..........keep banning me for NO REASON and I will drain existing email accounts from Google, Yahoo, Excite, Hotmail, etc and keep signing up to post one message. I'm a network manager here. I keep my networks tight, and preventatively maintained so when all is good................I gots the time. I'm a real prick when other's have questionable integrity and meritless motives.

23.1.2008 11:36 #42