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UK pirates are hurting economy, says SABIP

According to the The Strategic Advisory Board for Intellectual Property (SABIP), about 7 million UK citizens pirate music, games, movies and software each year, costing the economy at least $12 billion pounds.

On any given weekday, over 1.3 million people can be found using one of many file-sharing networks, adds the board.



Intellectual Property Minister David Lammy adds that the report shows off the grave significance piracy is having on the media industries and the UK economy in general.

"This is not an issue confined by national boundaries and I am sure that other [EU] member states and their copyright industries will find this report of use in the development of policy," he concluded.

Dame Lynne Brindley, SABIP Board member, noted: "This report gives us some baseline evidence from which we can develop a clear research strategy to support policy development in this fast moving area."

That policy is most likely to be forcing ISPs to cut off multiple time offenders, the extremely controversial "3 strikes" laws.

Written by: Andre Yoskowitz @ 29 May 2009 20:28

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• DXR88

  yeah it could also get 1000 more cops to protect its citizens, and open 500 new schools to. its a great plan and i fully agree with anything SABIP and other 100+ same goal different name organizations created by RIAA/MPAA Say.

  29.5.2009 21:44 #1

• Lothros

  Yet they still harp on about "omg piwates are making us lose money"
  
  Newsflash, you don't lose anything, because they would never buy it in the first place.

  29.5.2009 21:48 #2

• DXR88

  we the common people would never see that money they rant on about anyway. we are not in a recession we are in a dominance the rich get richer the poor are getting poorer by the second. if everybody even CEO all earned 45 dollars an hour there would be no recession as there would be no dominance there would be no poor there would be no rich.
  
  Money trickles down the top it always has, by the time it reaches the men and woman that keep the fat cats fat just so they can stay alive with basic necessity there is nothing left.

  29.5.2009 22:00 #3

• shummyr

  im thinking newsgroups are going to become even more popular

  29.5.2009 22:41 #4

• smacko

  This makes me think about those stupid commercials before movies,"you wouldn't steal a car would you." Poor microsoft, poor sony, poor rich movie stars and singers. They say that piracy hurts the smaller people on those things. Maybe if the stars didn't make ungodly figures then they could afford to keep those people.

  29.5.2009 23:35 #5

• Blackjax

  Well when it comes to the alphabet soup organizations of the media groups and those with their hands in everyone else's pocket but their own, a comedian has stated it better than anyone else...
  
  You can't argue with dumb!

  30.5.2009 01:27 #6

• sssharp

  Originally posted by DXR88: we the common people would never see that money they rant on about anyway. we are not in a recession we are in a dominance the rich get richer the poor are getting poorer by the second. if everybody even CEO all earned 45 dollars an hour there would be no recession as there would be no dominance there would be no poor there would be no rich. That is a very true, but we would have some lazy azz 45 dollar makers that still do as little as possible(execs etc).
  
  You govt people need to realize one thing, the money was never going to them anyway. We download just to pass free time during the days.

  30.5.2009 10:28 #7

• joe777

  They are losing money to piracy. Oh yeah thats right the pirate have also been creative with their expenses eh!!!!!!!! :P
  
  I filed my expenses and added the new exobyte HDD's for downloading the readers digest index and a new guard dog for my PC (which is better than any firewall) and the 20 killo of steak to feed him, though I might need a second dog. What else let me see, ah thats right, laser treatment for my eyesight, cause of all the pron I downloaded enz enz enz. I hope they dont think that I of all people are taking the piss with my expenses sheet:P

  30.5.2009 16:58 #8

• plazma247

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALZZx1xmAzg
  
  what more can i say.

  30.5.2009 17:19 #9

• shummyr

  Originally posted by plazma247: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALZZx1xmAzg
  
  what more can i say.thats too freakin funny

  30.5.2009 22:14 #10

• craftyzan

  
  
  
  Boy, is that smell getting thick around here guys! But there's no Bull like **AA Bull!

  31.5.2009 03:00 #11

• ZippyDSM

  Meh you spend less money on national goods you you spend more locally... damage? Hardly...

  31.5.2009 19:13 #12

• Mez

  If they really did a proper job, they would have found the reverse. Piracy reduces the harmful effects of price gouging. Pirates add to the echonomy buying storage for their ill gotten goodies.
  
  The movie industry survives because of the after market sales which are proped up by movie rentals which are proped up by pirates.

  1.6.2009 08:56 #13

• emugamer

  Ughh...more horse ^%#$. They have no idea how many "pirates" actually purchase after they've sampled. Going with an absurdly high number is self-serving. If the economy really does lose $12 billion pounds a year, would it even function? According to some sources I've read, the US has the least amount of piracy, yet our economy is the only one in the crapper.

  1.6.2009 12:22 #14

• Mez

  No, most of the world's echonomy is in the crapper and it is going to get a lot worse. I am expecting violance to break out over it. I do not know if it will be war or revolution. What I can say it it will not be pretty. The worlds richest countries have been in deficent spending for decades. The US has started to earn AA instead of AAA ratings. When it grows broke all the countries that were feeding off its fat will have no income. No one will be happy. many will be out of work.

  1.6.2009 12:40 #15

• Lothros

  Originally posted by Mez: No, most of the world's echonomy is in the crapper and it is going to get a lot worse. I am expecting violance to break out over it. I do not know if it will be war or revolution. What I can say it it will not be pretty. The worlds richest countries have been in deficent spending for decades. The US has started to earn AA instead of AAA ratings. When it grows broke all the countries that were feeding off its fat will have no income. No one will be happy. many will be out of work.What we need is a good World War to kick start the economy again... Oh look, North Korea About to Nuke Japan and Alaska... Splendid!

  1.6.2009 12:53 #16

• DXR88

  Quote:Originally posted by Mez: No, most of the world's echonomy is in the crapper and it is going to get a lot worse. I am expecting violance to break out over it. I do not know if it will be war or revolution. What I can say it it will not be pretty. The worlds richest countries have been in deficent spending for decades. The US has started to earn AA instead of AAA ratings. When it grows broke all the countries that were feeding off its fat will have no income. No one will be happy. many will be out of work.What we need is a good World War to kick start the economy again... Oh look, North Korea About to Nuke Japan and Alaska... Splendid!what you do is you get a lone sniper to blow Kim bong wongs long lost hair style back to the century it belongs in while he has one of his personal parades but that would be to easy. no instead we'll wait till he does something stupid and then rush in declaring war and get another lovely vacation island

  1.6.2009 13:37 #17

• pmshah

  Originally posted by smacko: This makes me think about those stupid commercials before movies,"you wouldn't steal a car would you." Believe me they would if they could keep it without getting caught.

  5.6.2009 23:12 #18

• wazzat

  Think again Lothros. When I left the service during NAM era POLICE ACTION, NOT WAR there were no jobs for a working stiff. You were DIRT if you were a Vet. Here in the US Bush, Cheney used the Iraq attack to raise their oil profits and GUESS WHAT- no jobs again. By the way, love the Youtube link to PIRACY, plazma247. Craftyzan, your picture reminds me of milkcows on the farm. They'd do a snort like that after sniffing another cow's butt. Hard to forget.
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  6.6.2009 10:42 #19

• wazzat

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  [url=http://patdollard.com/wp-content/uploads/fascist-leftists.jpg][/url]

  6.6.2009 10:57 #20

• wazzat

  OFF SUBJECT HERE? Hey, Newbies can't post messages more than once every 3 minutes. I've been a Newbie for 2? years. Just trying to get this picture insertion thing working with no luck. Someone tell me how to- Thanks.

  6.6.2009 11:04 #21

• plazma247

  Originally posted by wazzat: OFF SUBJECT HERE? Hey, Newbies can't post messages more than once every 3 minutes. I've been a Newbie for 2? years. Just trying to get this picture insertion thing working with no luck. Someone tell me how to- Thanks.Same here been a member for 4+ and still i get newbie status lol
  
  http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/co...ts_flag.ant.svg
  
  .svg isnt a picture format maybe it should be .jpg or somit.
  
  
  
  
  Pictures work for me you put link to the left of the bracket instead of in the middle.

  8.6.2009 06:41 #22

• ZippyDSM

  Quote:Originally posted by wazzat: OFF SUBJECT HERE? Hey, Newbies can't post messages more than once every 3 minutes. I've been a Newbie for 2? years. Just trying to get this picture insertion thing working with no luck. Someone tell me how to- Thanks.Same here been a member for 4+ and still i get newbie status lol
  
  http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/co...ts_flag.ant.svg
  
  .svg isnt a picture format maybe it should be .jpg or somit.
  
  
  
  
  Pictures work for me you put link to the left of the bracket instead of in the middle.Might as well replace that with the US flag, that's our 2 party rich man worshiping system at work >>

  8.6.2009 07:08 #23

• wazzat

  Plasma 247; Thanks for the insert info, will try your suggestion. And ZippyDSM you got the right idea. Although that picture is from a Brit site. The regular guys pirate to have enough money to get by. Everytime we head to the supermarket the prices on lots of items edge up a bit. And I think it's the retailer mostly. Same with petrol. Although in the U.S. the price of a Chrysler or GM vehicle may decrease soon and you'll probably forget dealer warranty on those vehicles.

  8.6.2009 08:13 #24

• ZippyDSM

  Originally posted by wazzat: Plasma 247; Thanks for the insert info, will try your suggestion. And ZippyDSM you got the right idea. Although that picture is from a Brit site. The regular guys pirate to have enough money to get by. Everytime we head to the supermarket the prices on lots of items edge up a bit. And I think it's the retailer mostly. Same with petrol. Although in the U.S. the price of a Chrysler or GM vehicle may decrease soon and you'll probably forget dealer warranty on those vehicles.Maybe in 5 years prices on vehicles will come down to proper mass consumer items but I doubt it the us car industry can not make a small/cheap and effeicnt car and even if they did 30-50% of the price would be for crash testing, all we need is better fuel system safety and roll bars/reinforced cabs if worse comes to worse put a 10% industry tax(money would go back into) on it and remove the added cost of crash testing from the product that is if crash testing adds 5-10K onto a vehicles price.
  
  There is just so much waste in the US car industry its not even funny, its a good thing they are closing dealers and getting rid of car lines we have to many of them and to many new cars sitting doing nothing.

  8.6.2009 08:26 #25

• DXR88

  Car lots pay manufactures full price for every car on the lot, and then turn around an sell it back for about a 5k-10k profit. the issue is people have realized they don't need a new mustang the one from 65 still works. if you really wanted to sustain auto manufactures, they would do away with making the same dame car whats the difference between an 08 and 09, the 08 and 09 other than thats its the same car from 2002. there is no innovation in the American auto industry,then again why would there be other countries do all the innovating anyway.
  
  if an American came with an ultra fuel effective design lets say 100 miles to a gallon do you know how quickly it would be shot down and put on the same floor with the water powered cars. now lets say if a chines manufacture came out with the same thing a year later do you know how fast they would be on the road.
  
  Americans don't want American Made product there fine with the junk that comes from china, but low and behold when there no jobs because we're happy with the imported crap who's the first to bitch? if you guessed Americans you'd be right.
  
  And i say it over and over again there is no recession, there is a mass job stifling do to the importers of cheap over seas labor. we stabbed are selves and can only blame are selves, its to the point where if we ever lost UN support there would be no America there would be this giant land mass with gleaming potential to be taking over by an enemy county. if it ever came to that we would have no way to defend are selves, because all of are supplies would have to come cross the big blue. and would more than likely hail from an enemy county.
  
  remember we can always kiss ass, but id rather kick it than kiss it .

  8.6.2009 16:09 #26

• wazzat

  Tried to post this earlier but it evaporated somewhere. Used my tape machine last night to move electric ladyland to the spare computer. And if you guys are looking for orange label verbatim DL, I just bought some from Newegg (searched for cheapest orange) and the label's blue. Shocked me! Made in Singapore, not India. Will have to try them.

  8.6.2009 20:53 #27