It's shaping up to be one heck of an interesting year for gaming consoles.
1.9.2009 21:05 #1
There has been some very good news for Xbox recently.
First reports show sales up in the UK by a large amount -
“Xbox 360 Sales Nearly Up By Half In UK
1st Sept 2009
The Xbox 360 seems to have taken an early lead if MCV is to be believed. Chartrack, the organisation that monitors sales of music, videos and software through retail in the UK and Ireland, told MCV that that sales of the Xbox 360 Elite increased by 43 percent week-on-week.”
www.itproportal.com/portal/news/article/2009/9/1/xbox-360-sales-nearly-half-uk/
Then there is the news from the warranty company Squaretrade showing that the Xbox Jasper failrate now @ 1%.
It remains to be seen how that compares with the PS3 slim but according to the numbers here Jasper Xbox is actually 10 times more reliable than PS3.
Who'd a thunk that!?
“SquareTrade, an independent provider of warranties on electronics, estimates that 2.7% of Wiis fail during the first two years of ownership, compared with a 10% failure rate over that period for Sony’s PlayStation 3 and a 23.7% failure rate for Microsoft’s Xbox 360.”
However…….
“Since Microsoft introduced a new chip in the Xbox 360 last year, SquareTrade said complaints about the red ring of death problem have begun to abate. On over 500 Xbox 360s purchased by SquareTrade customers in 2009, fewer than 1% reported a red ring of death problem as of August, according to SquareTrade.”
http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2009/09/01/g...problems-abate/
Link to SquareTrade report PDF
www.squaretrade.com/htm/pdf/SquareTrade_Xbox360_PS3_Wii_Reliability_0809.pdf
1.9.2009 21:33 #2
i wouldnt say 500 units is a big sample, if they were off one good batch aswell....
the slim has a 45nm tech for the CPU, so a lower TDP and so they shoudl have a lower rate aswell. i know most 60GBs are goin to get a YLOD but the 80GB and newer shouldnt have that many.
1.9.2009 22:35 #3
You missed out the fact that there has been a confirmed price drop in Australia, or aren't we important enough? :-)
2.9.2009 05:29 #4
“SquareTrade, an independent provider of warranties on electronics, estimates that 2.7% of Wiis fail during the first two years of ownership, compared with a 10% failure rate over that period for Sony’s PlayStation 3 and a 23.7% failure rate for Microsoft’s Xbox 360.”
It should also be remembered that the PS3 failure rate includes the original models that ran super-hot and had very crummy BD drives. The newer PS3 units are far more reliable than the old ones. If you are going to seperate the new 360 from the old ones, then you must also seperate the new PS3 units from the old ones.
Also, just because there are fewer RROD, this does not mean that 99% of the units have been problem free. There are lots of failures that do not cause a RROD. Also, this is a third party warantee company...failures that occur before the Microsoft warantee is expired are rarely reported to companies like Squaretrade...and the sample they are refering to are mostly still under warantee. I suspect the actual number of new units with problems is much higher than 1%.
2.9.2009 06:19 #5
Originally posted by KillerBug: “SquareTrade, an independent provider of warranties on electronics, estimates that 2.7% of Wiis fail during the first two years of ownership, compared with a 10% failure rate over that period for Sony’s PlayStation 3 and a 23.7% failure rate for Microsoft’s Xbox 360.”
If you are going to seperate the new 360 from the old ones, then you must also seperate the new PS3 units from the old ones.
The comment about PS3 slim is fair.....but we have no data for that yetand it has only (barely) gone on sale so the data is valid for the machines out there.
The Xbox is different.
The Jasper has been out since Dec 2008/Jan 2009.
Falcon since Sept/Oct 2007.
It is perfectly fair seperate & to point to the later units data, (seeing as they are now the only units on sale) which does indeed show a marked improvement over the early units.
“Since Microsoft introduced a new chip in the Xbox 360 last year, SquareTrade said complaints about the red ring of death problem have begun to abate. On over 500 Xbox 360s purchased by SquareTrade customers in 2009, fewer than 1% reported a red ring of death problem as of August, according to SquareTrade.”
http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2009/09/01/g...problems-abate/
It may be that as time goes by those numbers change, or they may not.
What we do have is the data as it is and from a trustworthy source.
Insurance companies live on accuracy.
Without an accurate set of numbers they cannot calculate risk & cover properly and therefore stand to either make big losses or get sued silly.
If you read the PDF this is not solely about RROD either.
2.9.2009 09:03 #6
If MS was smart they would have done this in Asia first targeting the better nations with a extra 50$ price drop.
2.9.2009 10:47 #7
Quote:Originally posted by KillerBug: “SquareTrade, an independent provider of warranties on electronics, estimates that 2.7% of Wiis fail during the first two years of ownership, compared with a 10% failure rate over that period for Sony’s PlayStation 3 and a 23.7% failure rate for Microsoft’s Xbox 360.”
If you are going to seperate the new 360 from the old ones, then you must also seperate the new PS3 units from the old ones.
The comment about PS3 slim is fair.....but we have no data for that yetand it has only (barely) gone on sale so the data is valid for the machines out there.
The Xbox is different.
The Jasper has been out since Dec 2008/Jan 2009.
Falcon since Sept/Oct 2007.
It is perfectly fair seperate & to point to the later units data, (seeing as they are now the only units on sale) which does indeed show a marked improvement over the early units.
“Since Microsoft introduced a new chip in the Xbox 360 last year, SquareTrade said complaints about the red ring of death problem have begun to abate. On over 500 Xbox 360s purchased by SquareTrade customers in 2009, fewer than 1% reported a red ring of death problem as of August, according to SquareTrade.”
http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2009/09/01/g...problems-abate/
It may be that as time goes by those numbers change, or they may not.
What we do have is the data as it is and from a trustworthy source.
Insurance companies live on accuracy.
Without an accurate set of numbers they cannot calculate risk & cover properly and therefore stand to either make big losses or get sued silly.
If you read the PDF this is not solely about RROD either.TL:DR the current fail60 fail rate is only half of wut it was eyars ago.
:P
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dang I DP my bad ><
2.9.2009 10:49 #8
