Israel explains iPad ban

Israel explains iPad ban
On Thursday we reported that the Israeli newspaper Haaretz had reported that the Apple iPad has been blocked from entering Israel, with customs officials confiscating all devices upon entry.

Today, the Israeli Ministry of Communications has elaborated on their reasoning behind the ban.



Says spokesperson Yechiel Shavi: "This device's wireless strengths violate Israeli law and will overpower other wireless devices in Israel."

Shavi added that if Apple releases a new version that complies with EU Wi-Fi standards, the ban will be overturned. Apple, in rebuttal says: "The iPad complies with international industry standards for Wi-Fi specifications."

The ban makes little sense to anyone outside of Israel. Apple uses a standard Wi-Fi chip that is industry-wide. From a technical standpoint, the ban doesn't make sense, says Richard Doherty, an analyst with the technology consulting firm Envisioneering Group, via the WSJ.

We will certainly keep you updated on any development, as this story keeps getting stranger and stranger.

Written by: Andre Yoskowitz @ 17 Apr 2010 15:39
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  • 48 comments
  • Morreale

    Maybe the Israeli government realizes that it's probably one of the dumbest products ever made and they just they're just looking out for their people's pockets...

    17.4.2010 15:46 #1

  • DXR88

    i dont think the Middle East likes Apple, first it was Egypt now its Israel.

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    17.4.2010 17:20 #2

  • beanos66

    how else are israelis going to get an iPad when apple are delaying the release to feed american demand ?

    17.4.2010 18:43 #3

  • ThePastor

    Does anyone else see the irony in Apple being upset because someone is banning them?

    18.4.2010 02:15 #4

  • shaffaaf

    LOL the israelis for ther first time in their 62 year history have done something commendable!




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    18.4.2010 03:03 #5

  • Josipher

    Originally posted by Morreale: Maybe the Israeli government realizes that it's probably one of the dumbest products ever made and they just they're just looking out for their people's pockets... my thoughts exactly :) im lovin my goverment now. theyre giving apple what i never could- a ban :P

    mods go home

    18.4.2010 05:00 #6

  • sssharp

    They dont want the children to learn anything or become a country like America. Keep the ignorant faith seeking government in control forever is all that is desired. The product may suck but the citizens need freedom. I truthfully want our soldiers to get the h e double l out of the middle east and let their stupidity cause a self destruction.

    18.4.2010 10:05 #7

  • OmriSama

    You guys are aware that iPods, iPhones, and maybe even Macs are all available and popular in Israel? I'm pretty sure they are. My friend who lives there said they are. And Shaf, gtfo.


    18.4.2010 11:48 #8

  • Desired

    Originally posted by sssharp: They dont want the children to learn anything or become a country like America. Keep the ignorant faith seeking government in control forever is all that is desired. The product may suck but the citizens need freedom. I truthfully want our soldiers to get the h e double l out of the middle east and let their stupidity cause a self destruction. Thank you for trolling irrelevantly. I hope to see you again soon.

    As for Israel's ban, thank god for the removal of the misconceived son of an iPod Touch and a Macbook Pro. I'm a Mac user, and iPad, I do not approve.

    18.4.2010 11:54 #9

  • Jemborg

    This is strange.

    I don't believe for a second the Israeli govt are banning the iPad because it is a fail product, that is fatuous reasoning.

    Maybe they are concerned about the ready exposure to international news... but I doubt that too.

    They may be just protecting the advertising revenue of local publications.

    @Desired, try just simply re-editing your post in future.

    Its a lot easier being righteous than right.


    18.4.2010 18:58 #10

  • shaffaaf

    Originally posted by OmriSama: You guys are aware that iPods, iPhones, and maybe even Macs are all available and popular in Israel? I'm pretty sure they are. My friend who lives there said they are. And Shaf, gtfo. why would i, as you so eloquently put, gtfo?




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    18.4.2010 19:02 #11

  • Leniseyjinio

    SPAM removed

    18.4.2010 23:58 #12

  • Josipher

    Originally posted by sssharp: They dont want the children to learn anything or become a country like America. Keep the ignorant faith seeking government in control forever is all that is desired. The product may suck but the citizens need freedom. I truthfully want our soldiers to get the h e double l out of the middle east and let their stupidity cause a self destruction. seriously where are the moderators when you need to remove an ignorant **** like this one

    Originally posted by shaffaaf: LOL the israelis for ther first time in their 62 year history have done something commendable! I wouldnt be so blatant as to say "gtfo" but please, enough with these kind of posts yo do nothing but annoy the israeli users of this site and jews as a whole.



    mods go home

    19.4.2010 05:13 #13

  • kfir1

    Any apple product should be banned anywhere in the WORLD. Two reasons why.

    1. Over hyped product (useless and should be banned immediately).
    2. Over priced product (only worth a dime)

    As you can see the word "over" stands out.

    I recommend the Israeli for banning apple products. They should ban steve jobs too.

    19.4.2010 05:49 #14

  • OmriSama

    Originally posted by shaffaaf: Originally posted by OmriSama: You guys are aware that iPods, iPhones, and maybe even Macs are all available and popular in Israel? I'm pretty sure they are. My friend who lives there said they are. And Shaf, gtfo. why would i, as you so eloquently put, gtfo? Cus of the insult to Israel.

    inb4somerebuttalwithhowyoucanusefreespeechandhowisraelisashitplace.

    Maybe I'm just butthurt but you know that what you said is not true.


    19.4.2010 10:31 #15

  • ZippyDSM

    Originally posted by shaffaaf: Originally posted by OmriSama: You guys are aware that iPods, iPhones, and maybe even Macs are all available and popular in Israel? I'm pretty sure they are. My friend who lives there said they are. And Shaf, gtfo. why would i, as you so eloquently put, gtfo? I dunno why either Israel is a mess on with its head up its ass and its ass in the sand same for half the middle east countries. And ya the US can be as inane buts its not had its ass in the ground for a few decades now......

    Until lobbying is a hanging offense I choose anarchy!
    Ah modern gaming its like modern film only the watering down of fiction and characters is replaced with shallow and watered down mechanics, gimmicks and shiny-er "people".
    http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/

    19.4.2010 11:41 #16

  • Jemborg

    Originally posted by Josipher: Originally posted by shaffaaf: LOL the israelis for ther first time in their 62 year history have done something commendable! I wouldnt be so blatant as to say "gtfo" but please, enough with these kind of posts yo do nothing but annoy the israeli users of this site and jews as a whole. Are you suggesting Israel is above criticism and that it speaks for all Jews?

    People on this site put my country down all the time... sometimes it's warranted, often not but I don't go all bombastic over it.

    Its a lot easier being righteous than right.


    19.4.2010 16:20 #17

  • ZippyDSM

    Originally posted by Jemborg: Originally posted by Josipher: Originally posted by shaffaaf: LOL the israelis for ther first time in their 62 year history have done something commendable! I wouldnt be so blatant as to say "gtfo" but please, enough with these kind of posts yo do nothing but annoy the israeli users of this site and jews as a whole. Are you suggesting Israel is above criticism and that it speaks for all Jews?

    People on this site put my country down all the time... sometimes it's warranted, often not but I don't go all bombastic over it.
    Hell no and half the the time people think it is.
    Tho in truth like any other place half of is faults/issues are their own making.

    Personally I think they need a bit less world wide support, other countries need to see them in a more faliable/human light, IE you guys need to cut back or get out because what and how you are doing things can only be sustained for so long before it it falls apart. And I can say he same damn thing to the US about their inability to regulate the finical market, we lost 8 trillion to them for what? inflation? a depreciated dollar? higher interest rates and lower limits from credit card companies? Holy fck at least Israel can manage to take care of its own damn country....even if they fail at other things..........

    Until lobbying is a hanging offense I choose anarchy!
    Ah modern gaming its like modern film only the watering down of fiction and characters is replaced with shallow and watered down mechanics, gimmicks and shiny-er "people".
    http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/

    19.4.2010 20:30 #18

  • Josipher

    Originally posted by Jemborg: Originally posted by Josipher: Originally posted by shaffaaf: LOL the israelis for ther first time in their 62 year history have done something commendable! I wouldnt be so blatant as to say "gtfo" but please, enough with these kind of posts yo do nothing but annoy the israeli users of this site and jews as a whole. Are you suggesting Israel is above criticism and that it speaks for all Jews?

    People on this site put my country down all the time... sometimes it's warranted, often not but I don't go all bombastic over it.
    i could give less of a **** if you critisized our country about the ban cause its related to the article, but what the hell does politics have to do with it. tell me what does zippys comment Personally I think they need a bit less world wide support, other countries need to see them in a more faliable/human light, have to do with this article?

    mods go home

    20.4.2010 15:21 #19

  • shaffaaf

    iOriginally posted by Josipher: Originally posted by sssharp: They dont want the children to learn anything or become a country like America. Keep the ignorant faith seeking government in control forever is all that is desired. The product may suck but the citizens need freedom. I truthfully want our soldiers to get the h e double l out of the middle east and let their stupidity cause a self destruction. seriously where are the moderators when you need to remove an ignorant **** like this one

    Originally posted by shaffaaf: LOL the israelis for ther first time in their 62 year history have done something commendable! I wouldnt be so blatant as to say "gtfo" but please, enough with these kind of posts yo do nothing but annoy the israeli users of this site and jews as a whole.


    tell me where i said anything again jewish people? i dont care about a persons religion, that doesnt affect me. also neither did i say anything againt the israeli people, of which are mulsim, jew, christian etc etc. no i targeted the government, just like the article stated that he government banned the ipad.

    the israeli governtment is currput to its core and has been for 62 years. not once has it given a damn about human care, and infact its comparable to china. and no i am not praising any of the governments of the countries around it, and infact if there is anyone government who is most like israels, bar china, its saudia arabia. all 3 couldnt give a crap about human care or human life.

    the US needs to stop pumping the billions/trillions into israel and we need to boycott them, but it wont happen will it?




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    20.4.2010 15:34 #20

  • ZippyDSM

    Originally posted by Josipher: Originally posted by Jemborg: Originally posted by Josipher: Originally posted by shaffaaf: LOL the israelis for ther first time in their 62 year history have done something commendable! I wouldnt be so blatant as to say "gtfo" but please, enough with these kind of posts yo do nothing but annoy the israeli users of this site and jews as a whole. Are you suggesting Israel is above criticism and that it speaks for all Jews?

    People on this site put my country down all the time... sometimes it's warranted, often not but I don't go all bombastic over it.
    i could give less of a **** if you critisized our country about the ban cause its related to the article, but what the hell does politics have to do with it. tell me what does zippys comment Personally I think they need a bit less world wide support, other countries need to see them in a more faliable/human light, have to do with this article?
    Just a general rant with un holy, holy land. The whole area needs to be nuked figuratively speaking and done over. BUUUTTTTTTTTTttt I can say the same for the US government so meh just call me a curmudgeon.

    Until lobbying is a hanging offense I choose anarchy!
    Ah modern gaming its like modern film only the watering down of fiction and characters is replaced with shallow and watered down mechanics, gimmicks and shiny-er "people".
    http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/

    20.4.2010 15:53 #21

  • ZippyDSM

    Originally posted by shaffaaf: iOriginally posted by Josipher: Originally posted by sssharp: They dont want the children to learn anything or become a country like America. Keep the ignorant faith seeking government in control forever is all that is desired. The product may suck but the citizens need freedom. I truthfully want our soldiers to get the h e double l out of the middle east and let their stupidity cause a self destruction. seriously where are the moderators when you need to remove an ignorant **** like this one

    Originally posted by shaffaaf: LOL the israelis for ther first time in their 62 year history have done something commendable! I wouldnt be so blatant as to say "gtfo" but please, enough with these kind of posts yo do nothing but annoy the israeli users of this site and jews as a whole.


    tell me where i said anything again jewish people? i dont care about a persons religion, that doesnt affect me. also neither did i say anything againt the israeli people, of which are mulsim, jew, christian etc etc. no i targeted the government, just like the article stated that he government banned the ipad.

    the israeli governtment is currput to its core and has been for 62 years. not once has it given a damn about human care, and infact its comparable to china. and no i am not praising any of the governments of the countries around it, and infact if there is anyone government who is most like israels, bar china, its saudia arabia. all 3 couldnt give a crap about human care or human life.

    the US needs to stop pumping the billions/trillions into israel and we need to boycott them, but it wont happen will it?
    I pretty much agree.

    Until lobbying is a hanging offense I choose anarchy!
    Ah modern gaming its like modern film only the watering down of fiction and characters is replaced with shallow and watered down mechanics, gimmicks and shiny-er "people".
    http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/

    20.4.2010 15:54 #22

  • DVDBack23

    Originally posted by shaffaaf: tell me where i said anything again jewish people? i dont care about a persons religion, that doesnt affect me. also neither did i say anything againt the israeli people, of which are mulsim, jew, christian etc etc. no i targeted the government, just like the article stated that he government banned the ipad.

    the israeli governtment is currput to its core and has been for 62 years. not once has it given a damn about human care, and infact its comparable to china. and no i am not praising any of the governments of the countries around it, and infact if there is anyone government who is most like israels, bar china, its saudia arabia. all 3 couldnt give a crap about human care or human life.

    the US needs to stop pumping the billions/trillions into israel and we need to boycott them, but it wont happen will it?
    Can you please back up these statements where you say the Israeli government does not care about human life? From my standpoint (I have been to Israel twice), the government is protecting the lives of millions of Jews (and some muslims, christians) every day with their actions.

    I do not know where you live Shaf, but remind me the last time your next door neighboring country threatened to nuke you off the planet once they are finished creating nuclear arms.

    As for boycotting the Israeli government? Why? We don't boycott France or England, why is Israel any worse? (They aren't)

    20.4.2010 20:20 #23

  • ZippyDSM

    Originally posted by DVDBack23: Originally posted by shaffaaf: tell me where i said anything again jewish people? i dont care about a persons religion, that doesnt affect me. also neither did i say anything againt the israeli people, of which are mulsim, jew, christian etc etc. no i targeted the government, just like the article stated that he government banned the ipad.

    the israeli governtment is currput to its core and has been for 62 years. not once has it given a damn about human care, and infact its comparable to china. and no i am not praising any of the governments of the countries around it, and infact if there is anyone government who is most like israels, bar china, its saudia arabia. all 3 couldnt give a crap about human care or human life.

    the US needs to stop pumping the billions/trillions into israel and we need to boycott them, but it wont happen will it?
    Can you please back up these statements where you say the Israeli government does not care about human life? From my standpoint (I have been to Israel twice), the government is protecting the lives of millions of Jews (and some muslims, christians) every day with their actions.

    I do not know where you live Shaf, but remind me the last time your next door neighboring country threatened to nuke you off the planet once they are finished creating nuclear arms.

    As for boycotting the Israeli government? Why? We don't boycott France or England, why is Israel any worse? (They aren't)
    They are when we are giving them millions and millions to keep holding back the horde....... we should focus more on our own damn country for a few decades before our system collapses....oh wait....too late.... its already stared...

    Until lobbying is a hanging offense I choose anarchy!
    Ah modern gaming its like modern film only the watering down of fiction and characters is replaced with shallow and watered down mechanics, gimmicks and shiny-er "people".
    http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/

    20.4.2010 20:43 #24

  • MeYouFoos

    Can't we all just get along - lmao - no we can't and we never will....

    20.4.2010 20:50 #25

  • ZippyDSM

    Originally posted by MeYouFoos: Can't we all just get along - lmao - no we can't and we never will.... Its not so much about getting along but stop trying to hold onto sand.....

    Until lobbying is a hanging offense I choose anarchy!
    Ah modern gaming its like modern film only the watering down of fiction and characters is replaced with shallow and watered down mechanics, gimmicks and shiny-er "people".
    http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/

    20.4.2010 21:01 #26

  • Josipher

    Originally posted by ZippyDSM: Originally posted by DVDBack23: Originally posted by shaffaaf: tell me where i said anything again jewish people? i dont care about a persons religion, that doesnt affect me. also neither did i say anything againt the israeli people, of which are mulsim, jew, christian etc etc. no i targeted the government, just like the article stated that he government banned the ipad.

    the israeli governtment is currput to its core and has been for 62 years. not once has it given a damn about human care, and infact its comparable to china. and no i am not praising any of the governments of the countries around it, and infact if there is anyone government who is most like israels, bar china, its saudia arabia. all 3 couldnt give a crap about human care or human life.

    the US needs to stop pumping the billions/trillions into israel and we need to boycott them, but it wont happen will it?
    Can you please back up these statements where you say the Israeli government does not care about human life? From my standpoint (I have been to Israel twice), the government is protecting the lives of millions of Jews (and some muslims, christians) every day with their actions.

    I do not know where you live Shaf, but remind me the last time your next door neighboring country threatened to nuke you off the planet once they are finished creating nuclear arms.

    As for boycotting the Israeli government? Why? We don't boycott France or England, why is Israel any worse? (They aren't)
    They are when we are giving them millions and millions to keep holding back the horde....... we should focus more on our own damn country for a few decades before our system collapses....oh wait....too late.... its already stared...
    first i thought you were biased but then i realised its shaf whos biased not you. you just hate everyone and rant rant rant and nothing else..

    as for the shaf, im not even gonna comment about your idiotic proposal to boycott israel, ill just add then besides having one neighbour that says hes gunna kill us all, one thats transferring missiles to a terrorist organization and declaring it openly in the newspaper we also have a very "close one" that never misses a chance to infiltrate our lawn and blow himself to pieces taking children women and mens lives altogether.
    when you have to clean up remains of severed heads legs and arms you call me

    21.4.2010 03:07 #27

  • ZippyDSM

    Originally posted by Josipher: Originally posted by ZippyDSM: Originally posted by DVDBack23: Originally posted by shaffaaf: tell me where i said anything again jewish people? i dont care about a persons religion, that doesnt affect me. also neither did i say anything againt the israeli people, of which are mulsim, jew, christian etc etc. no i targeted the government, just like the article stated that he government banned the ipad.

    the israeli governtment is currput to its core and has been for 62 years. not once has it given a damn about human care, and infact its comparable to china. and no i am not praising any of the governments of the countries around it, and infact if there is anyone government who is most like israels, bar china, its saudia arabia. all 3 couldnt give a crap about human care or human life.

    the US needs to stop pumping the billions/trillions into israel and we need to boycott them, but it wont happen will it?
    Can you please back up these statements where you say the Israeli government does not care about human life? From my standpoint (I have been to Israel twice), the government is protecting the lives of millions of Jews (and some muslims, christians) every day with their actions.

    I do not know where you live Shaf, but remind me the last time your next door neighboring country threatened to nuke you off the planet once they are finished creating nuclear arms.

    As for boycotting the Israeli government? Why? We don't boycott France or England, why is Israel any worse? (They aren't)
    They are when we are giving them millions and millions to keep holding back the horde....... we should focus more on our own damn country for a few decades before our system collapses....oh wait....too late.... its already stared...
    first i thought you were biased but then i realised its shaf whos biased not you. you just hate everyone and rant rant rant and nothing else..

    as for the shaf, im not even gonna comment about your idiotic proposal to boycott israel, ill just add then besides having one neighbour that says hes gunna kill us all, one thats transferring missiles to a terrorist organization and declaring it openly in the newspaper we also have a very "close one" that never misses a chance to infiltrate our lawn and blow himself to pieces taking children women and mens lives altogether.
    when you have to clean up remains of severed heads legs and arms you call me

    Yup I like my ranting ^_~

    But really tho...the US puts out billions a year to go to everywhere while we are losing jobs and the common worker is gaining less and less money thus over all less taxes paid....... the US needs to stop the hands out and work on itself before it falls apart.....

    Until lobbying is a hanging offense I choose anarchy!
    Ah modern gaming its like modern film only the watering down of fiction and characters is replaced with shallow and watered down mechanics, gimmicks and shiny-er "people".
    http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/

    21.4.2010 12:45 #28

  • ThePastor

    Me paying for your healthcare isn't enough? What more do you want handed to you?
    Personally, I think investing in Isreal is a pretty good investment.

    Unfortunately for them, all Blu-ray protections have been broken and BD rips can be found around the Internet, usually before the retail even hits shelves.

    21.4.2010 16:56 #29

  • Jemborg

    Originally posted by Josipher: Originally posted by Jemborg: Originally posted by Josipher: Originally posted by shaffaaf: LOL the israelis for ther first time in their 62 year history have done something commendable! I wouldnt be so blatant as to say "gtfo" but please, enough with these kind of posts yo do nothing but annoy the israeli users of this site and jews as a whole. Are you suggesting Israel is above criticism and that it speaks for all Jews?

    People on this site put my country down all the time... sometimes it's warranted, often not but I don't go all bombastic over it.
    i could give less of a **** if you critisized our country about the ban cause its related to the article, but what the hell does politics have to do with it. tell me what does zippys comment Personally I think they need a bit less world wide support, other countries need to see them in a more faliable/human light, have to do with this article?
    Not much... at least I answered all of your question. So by implication I guess it's no to the first part of my question, yes to the second.

    I did not criticise the ban here btw, just commented, I made myself perfectly clear (see above, post #10).

    PS: Religion is an insult to humanity.

    Its a lot easier being righteous than right.


    22.4.2010 00:25 #30

  • Josipher

    thats a no to your second question as well. you know very little about us and by you i mean americans as a whole . not that i blame you, half your national news channels are biased.

    if you read this article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satmar#Name
    youll come to realise that there are jews who dont support israel as a country:

    "The Satmar Hasidic movement has become known for its social isolation from all forms of secular culture and for its opposition to all forms of religious, secular, and political Zionism"

    but these are very discrete and dwindled groups that comprise of less than 130k worldwide.
    so no israel does not represent all jews, but it does represent the majority of them.

    mods go home

    22.4.2010 09:01 #31

  • Jemborg

    Originally posted by Josipher: thats a no to your second question as well. you know very little about us and by you i mean americans as a whole . not that i blame you, half your national news channels are biased.

    if you read this article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satmar#Name
    youll come to realise that there are jews who dont support israel as a country:

    "The Satmar Hasidic movement has become known for its social isolation from all forms of secular culture and for its opposition to all forms of religious, secular, and political Zionism"

    but these are very discrete and dwindled groups that comprise of less than 130k worldwide.
    so no israel does not represent all jews, but it does represent the majority of them.
    I know about that Josipher and about the Ashkenasi, the Samaritons, even Jewish Israelis who don't agree with their government e.g. the Refusenicks...

    I even have Jewish relatives in Israel...


    ...and I happen to be Australian.

    We have some major news channels that are far from biased, or sensationalist...

    {EDIT:I wrote a bunch of other things here... but stuff it, I can't be bothered.}

    Its a lot easier being righteous than right.


    22.4.2010 10:27 #32

  • Mez

    Originally posted by Josipher: Originally posted by sssharp: They dont want the children to learn anything or become a country like America. Keep the ignorant faith seeking government in control forever is all that is desired. The product may suck but the citizens need freedom. I truthfully want our soldiers to get the h e double l out of the middle east and let their stupidity cause a self destruction. seriously where are the moderators when you need to remove an ignorant **** like this one

    Originally posted by shaffaaf: LOL the israelis for ther first time in their 62 year history have done something commendable! I wouldnt be so blatant as to say "gtfo" but please, enough with these kind of posts yo do nothing but annoy the israeli users of this site and jews as a whole.
    Although this may be offensive for you, they did not break any rules. As long as you don't go over the line there is freedom of speech here. Although their way of thinking bothers you I am sure you are just as offensive to them. Should you be banned?

    I suspect there is a suspicion that there may be Trojans in the devices and they prefer to be safe than sorry. Trojans apps are being found in Chinese goods at an increasing rate.

    22.4.2010 10:58 #33

  • Jemborg

    Originally posted by Mez: I suspect there is a suspicion that there may be Trojans in the devices and they prefer to be safe than sorry. Trojans apps are being found in Chinese goods at an increasing rate. Goddamn! Yes, you are right! That could be it!

    There was a report on it on Four Corners here:

    http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/

    Under the heading "Chinese Whispers".

    You might be able to watch it here too:

    http://www.abc.net.au/iview/#/series/four%20corners

    It's all free, the ABC in Australia is like Briton's BBC.

    Its a lot easier being righteous than right.


    22.4.2010 11:16 #34

  • john_swan

    People should not bring iPad into Isreal. People should not bring weapons into Mexico. Man should not bring 13 year old wife purchased in foreign country into the United States. Each country can set the rules which a citizen or visitor should follow.

    John Swanson

    22.4.2010 15:21 #35

  • FredBun

    Originally posted by Morreale: Maybe the Israeli government realizes that it's probably one of the dumbest products ever made and they just they're just looking out for their people's pockets... Ditto

    23.4.2010 22:22 #36

  • Jemborg

    Originally posted by FredBun: Originally posted by Morreale: Maybe the Israeli government realizes that it's probably one of the dumbest products ever made and they just they're just looking out for their people's pockets... Ditto Rofl, I must admit I still find that notion laughable. And I by no means am a Apple believer.

    I reckon Mez got it right... I reckon they want to investigate it for Chinese trogans/spyware first. That has become a real problem... see above.

    Either that or they are under pressure to protect the advertising revenue of local publications.


    Its a lot easier being righteous than right.


    23.4.2010 23:19 #37

  • Mez

    The Chinese are far more blatant than those articles. Chipods have been infected for years with Trojans that will load key logging software to the computer. They are a great bargain since they die shortly after they infect your computer. All the Seagate drives coming out of China had Trojans in the boot sector. All aimed at identity theft.

    A CIA agent swapped a chip in a printer at a French printer factory. The chip had a nasty virus that was to be attached to the Iraqi defense mainframe. It brought down the mainframe right before the Desert Storm attack (the first war). The virus made bogies appear on the radar screen a few hrs before the real attack began. There were reports of them shooting into the air at nothing just before the real attack began. It took them a few minutes before they realized the attack was real. By that time their radar had been blown up.

    This is not something to take lightly.

    24.4.2010 00:18 #38

  • john_swan

    Originally posted by FredBun: Originally posted by Morreale: Maybe the Israeli government realizes that it's probably one of the dumbest products ever made and they just they're just looking out for their people's pockets... Ditto The iPad is an iPhone for the sight impaired. Users need to purchase the optional iShirt with iPockets for their iPad. Apple needs an integrated solar panel to recharge battery at night using just the light from the stars or moon.

    John Swanson

    24.4.2010 03:57 #39

  • Jemborg

    Originally posted by Mez: ...All the Seagate drives coming out of China had Trojans in the boot sector. All aimed at identity theft. WTF!!! I think I have a couple of seagate drives on this poot!

    :O

    Did you see the bit where executives and such are now taking the batteries out of their devices before meetings? If your device has a camera they can even spy on you with that... And what about the attacks on Google Gmail... and the congressional inquires into all this?

    Its a lot easier being righteous than right.


    24.4.2010 05:25 #40

  • Mez

    Originally posted by Jemborg: WTF!!! I think I have a couple of seagate drives on this poot! That was only for a short duration because Seagate took quick, decisive action. Had it been Apple who knows what would have happened.

    24.4.2010 08:56 #41

  • Jemborg

    Originally posted by Mez: Originally posted by Jemborg: WTF!!! I think I have a couple of seagate drives on this poot! That was only for a short duration because Seagate took quick, decisive action. Had it been Apple who knows what would have happened.

    Phew!

    Well, I go to a reasonable amount of effort to keep things clean. Spybot just reported all a-ok. Recently got rid of the Chrome browser because I found it kept loading up Spyware, i.e. DoubleClick, which I found out Google now own!

    Still I suppose you never know... do all my shopping in YourBumToo Linux on the netbook now.

    Its a lot easier being righteous than right.


    24.4.2010 17:15 #42

  • john_swan

    I thought you could not get a computer virus unless you powered the computer on. I was wrong. I never considered Seagate would install a computer virus on the harddrive and ship them to customers. When you make something idiot proof someone will come up with a better idiot.

    John Swanson

    25.4.2010 03:27 #43

  • Jemborg

    Originally posted by john_swan: I thought you could not get a computer virus unless you powered the computer on. I was wrong. I never considered Seagate would install a computer virus on the harddrive and ship them to customers. When you make something idiot proof someone will come up with a better idiot. Seagate didn't put the trojan on there.

    Its a lot easier being righteous than right.


    25.4.2010 05:40 #44

  • john_swan

    Originally posted by Jemborg: Originally posted by john_swan: I thought you could not get a computer virus unless you powered the computer on. I was wrong. I never considered Seagate would install a computer virus on the harddrive and ship them to customers. When you make something idiot proof someone will come up with a better idiot. Seagate didn't put the trojan on there. A wife buys a life insurance policy for her husband. She hires someone to terminate the life of her husband. She collects money for her efforts actions. She committed a crime.

    The executive outsource manufacturing jobs. Executive now profits by firing the employees. Your outsourced manufacturing operation infects harddrive to steal information from your customers. You package the product and ship Segate's product to your customer. You cause financial losses to your customers because you never checked the quality of your product. AS CEO you are responsible for the products your company produces. The CEO and board members should be treated as criminals.

    John Swanson

    25.4.2010 13:03 #45

  • Jemborg

    Originally posted by john_swan: Originally posted by Jemborg: Originally posted by john_swan: I thought you could not get a computer virus unless you powered the computer on. I was wrong. I never considered Seagate would install a computer virus on the harddrive and ship them to customers. When you make something idiot proof someone will come up with a better idiot. Seagate didn't put the trojan on there. A wife buys a life insurance policy for her husband. She hires someone to terminate the life of her husband. She collects money for her efforts actions. She committed a crime.

    The executive outsource manufacturing jobs. Executive now profits by firing the employees. Your outsourced manufacturing operation infects harddrive to steal information from your customers. You package the product and ship Segate's product to your customer. You cause financial losses to your customers because you never checked the quality of your product. AS CEO you are responsible for the products your company produces. The CEO and board members should be treated as criminals.
    Maybe... but in reality it's the outsourced manufactures who have breached their contract and the law. And the argument here is that you can trace it back to the Chinese government!

    Its a lot easier being righteous than right.


    25.4.2010 13:32 #46

  • ZippyDSM

    Originally posted by john_swan: Originally posted by Jemborg: Originally posted by john_swan: I thought you could not get a computer virus unless you powered the computer on. I was wrong. I never considered Seagate would install a computer virus on the harddrive and ship them to customers. When you make something idiot proof someone will come up with a better idiot. Seagate didn't put the trojan on there. A wife buys a life insurance policy for her husband. She hires someone to terminate the life of her husband. She collects money for her efforts actions. She committed a crime.

    The executive outsource manufacturing jobs. Executive now profits by firing the employees. Your outsourced manufacturing operation infects harddrive to steal information from your customers. You package the product and ship Segate's product to your customer. You cause financial losses to your customers because you never checked the quality of your product. AS CEO you are responsible for the products your company produces. The CEO and board members should be treated as criminals.

    If the US government was not run by representatives of corporations they could go after them.....

    Until lobbying is a hanging offense I choose anarchy!
    Ah modern gaming its like modern film only the watering down of fiction and characters is replaced with shallow and watered down mechanics, gimmicks and shiny-er "people".
    http://zippydsmlee.wordpress.com/

    25.4.2010 15:39 #47

  • DXR88

    Originally posted by ZippyDSM: Originally posted by john_swan: Originally posted by Jemborg: Originally posted by john_swan: I thought you could not get a computer virus unless you powered the computer on. I was wrong. I never considered Seagate would install a computer virus on the harddrive and ship them to customers. When you make something idiot proof someone will come up with a better idiot. Seagate didn't put the trojan on there. A wife buys a life insurance policy for her husband. She hires someone to terminate the life of her husband. She collects money for her efforts actions. She committed a crime.

    The executive outsource manufacturing jobs. Executive now profits by firing the employees. Your outsourced manufacturing operation infects harddrive to steal information from your customers. You package the product and ship Segate's product to your customer. You cause financial losses to your customers because you never checked the quality of your product. AS CEO you are responsible for the products your company produces. The CEO and board members should be treated as criminals.

    If the US government was not run by representatives of corporations they could go after them.....
    in a few more years, we wont have to they'll come to us.

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