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Infinity Ward bans 1,600 Modern Warfare 3 cheaters

Infinity Ward announced this weekend that it had banned 1600 Modern Warfare 3 players, each accused of using glitches in the game to either hack or cheat in-game.

More players are expected to be banned as the week progresses.



Says the company via Twitter:

Any attempt to cheat, hack, or glitch in #MW3 will not be tolerated. 1600+ bans issued. Updates in works. Please [continue] to report offenders.

We are doing mass bans on PC as well while we work on updates.

The company is also working on hot fixes.

Modern Warfare 3, the latest in the blockbuster franchise, has made over $900 million in sales since its launch earlier this month, smashing all previous records for gaming launches.

Written by: Andre Yoskowitz @ 21 Nov 2011 15:00

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• buxtahuda

  That's a little messed up. Nothing new in the world though, of course they would. Easier to just ban people than make your product stable, amirite?
  
  I mean, I know people that have randomly found some of those glitches and are using them; a bit f***ed up in my mind they may get their accounts banned for finding and subsequently using the neglected problems. Don't want people popping into a glitch, don't make it so retarded easy.
  
  And don't I remember them saying at one point about MW2 that they embrace the glitches and the ingenuity of people for finding them? Something along those lines, thinking of another title perhaps?

  21.11.2011 15:44 #1

• plutonash

  I welcome this, tired of being glitching themselves inside a tank and being invulnerable for the whole game.
  

  "Cable thief is a victimless crime."

  21.11.2011 16:04 #2

• xaznboitx

  Originally posted by buxtahuda: That's a little messed up. Nothing new in the world though, of course they would. Easier to just ban people than make your product stable, amirite?
  
  I mean, I know people that have randomly found some of those glitches and are using them; a bit f***ed up in my mind they may get their accounts banned for finding and subsequently using the neglected problems. Don't want people popping into a glitch, don't make it so retarded easy.
  
  And don't I remember them saying at one point about MW2 that they embrace the glitches and the ingenuity of people for finding them? Something along those lines, thinking of another title perhaps? I bet you're one of them
  

  21.11.2011 16:24 #3

• buxtahuda

  Originally posted by xaznboitx: Originally posted by buxtahuda: That's a little messed up. Nothing new in the world though, of course they would. Easier to just ban people than make your product stable, amirite?
  
  I mean, I know people that have randomly found some of those glitches and are using them; a bit f***ed up in my mind they may get their accounts banned for finding and subsequently using the neglected problems. Don't want people popping into a glitch, don't make it so retarded easy.
  
  And don't I remember them saying at one point about MW2 that they embrace the glitches and the ingenuity of people for finding them? Something along those lines, thinking of another title perhaps? I bet you're one of them lol no. I don't even own the game yet, and I don't think I will thank you. Too buggy. Get stuck on everything, glitches left and right, only saving grace is Spec Ops Survival which I'm pretty sure is only so good because TreyArch helped with a bit of it.
  
  I'll stick to all my zombies maps on Black Ops thanks, there was more marketing put into this latest release than there was effort on the actual game, IMO
  
  And I understand people not liking it, but really, what game vulnerability do people not exploit? Quick/No-scoping is still *rampant. Why? Not because we've done anything. Because they haven't properly tested their product and they don't do anything to really change/innovate the games and their experiences in the first place.
  
  Regardless of all this opinion, it's messed up people will lose their entire accounts (hell, reset their KD ratios or something) because IW just wanted to make as much money as possible and put this thing on the market ASAP. Nothing new, but I'd be pissed if I bought this game and that Elite service only to have my account banned for mucking about with a problem that's probably been there since pre-beta stages.
  
  Fix the problem, don't ban the people making it obvious a fix is needed.
  
  Originally posted by plutonash: I welcome this, tired of being glitching themselves inside a tank and being invulnerable for the whole game. And they're not invulnerable, just hard to pinpoint. I've seen my buddy kill two people chilling in both tanks outside the hangar in Outpost because he kept dying without seeing anyone; just shot the hell out of 'em.
  
  *Don't know how that word got deleted...
  

  ~*Livin' Electronicallly*~

  21.11.2011 16:38 #4

• xaznboitx

  it's in the term of conduct no modding, glitching, hacking
  

  21.11.2011 16:44 #5

• buxtahuda

  Originally posted by xaznboitx: it's in the term of conduct no modding, glitching, hacking Like I said, don't own it so I wouldn't know. Lol big surprise, Terms of Whatever used to pre-f*** consumers.
  
  I don't care, I fail to agree that it's OK "I" pay $60-$100 on something then get all my info kicked because the company knew it had problems, would have problems, and put out a completely non-legal contract concerning such.
  
  I can accept that if someone modded or hacked their way into an advantage that this would be an acceptable practice. They had to actively screw with the IP and should face consequences. But it is downright ridiculous to get in trouble because you used something they put in the game.
  

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  21.11.2011 16:54 #6

• Joe_1981

  I don't care if glitches are there. Lots of games have glitches. Your argument of, oh, it's in the game, people shouldn't be punished for using it is a flawed one. Just because a glitch accidentally makes it into the game doesn't mean you have to exploit it. They could have tested the game for five years and glitches or bugs still could have made it in. Most every game ever made has some kind of hiccup, be it major or minor, they happen. They didn't PUT IT IN THE GAME. It's a glitch, accident, not meant to be there.
  
  You can shout all you want that they didn't test it enough and they're greedy and too bad for them if people glitch. Well, that doesn't mean glitchers get to get away with it and ruin the experience for everyone else. If you're seen exploiting a glitch for hours on end, you should be banned. Everyone knows how online games work these days, you glitch ie: cheat... you usually get banned. If you wanna take that chance, then people shouldn't cry or whine, oh well, the glitch was there, I thought I could exploit it. Idiots!
  

  21.11.2011 17:48 #7

• SomeBozo

  Originally posted by plutonash: I welcome this, tired of being glitching themselves inside a tank and being invulnerable for the whole game. Absolutely! I can't agree more and welcome this too!
  

  21.11.2011 18:00 #8

• core2kid

  Originally posted by SomeBozo: Originally posted by plutonash: I welcome this, tired of being glitching themselves inside a tank and being invulnerable for the whole game. Absolutely! I can't agree more and welcome this too! Agreed! Just got a game winning kill cam in MW2 with a person jumping 1000 feet in the air. These hacks are from Jtagging/Jailbreaking. They should be banned. Do whatever you want in single player. In multiplayer, play fair.

  21.11.2011 18:34 #9

• buxtahuda

  Originally posted by Joe_1981: I don't care if glitches are there. Lots of games have glitches. Your argument of, oh, it's in the game, people shouldn't be punished for using it is a flawed one. Just because a glitch accidentally makes it into the game doesn't mean you have to exploit it. They could have tested the game for five years and glitches or bugs still could have made it in. Most every game ever made has some kind of hiccup, be it major or minor, they happen. They didn't PUT IT IN THE GAME. It's a glitch, accident, not meant to be there.
  
  You can shout all you want that they didn't test it enough and they're greedy and too bad for them if people glitch. Well, that doesn't mean glitchers get to get away with it and ruin the experience for everyone else. If you're seen exploiting a glitch for hours on end, you should be banned. Everyone knows how online games work these days, you glitch ie: cheat... you usually get banned. If you wanna take that chance, then people shouldn't cry or whine, oh well, the glitch was there, I thought I could exploit it. Idiots! I'll go on and quit before I rage-rage and cause further detriment to my nonexistent AD popularity. Plenty I was about to say, but really, I'm a member so I know how it is here and I think I've produced enough opinionated garbage for the day.
  
  Enjoy your glitchy, you're-not-allowed-to-use-glitches game and I hope they take a step towards actually fixing the issue.
  
  As a last comment, I love how Elite was such a selling point that it couldn't even work on the first week. If they couldn't handle the initial influx, I can't wait to see what happens after the holidays lol
  
  Originally posted by core2kid: Agreed! Just got a game winning kill cam in MW2 with a person jumping 1000 feet in the air. These hacks are from Jtagging/Jailbreaking. They should be banned. Do whatever you want in single player. In multiplayer, play fair. And yes. They should. But when my friend gets banned for using a glitch a couple of times for kicks and giggles I'll just shake my head and stand by my decision not to buy the game.
  

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  21.11.2011 18:41 #10

• core2kid

  Banning for using glitches in the game is ridiculous, I thought this was only for real "hackers".

  21.11.2011 18:45 #11

• Joe_1981

  @buxtahuda
  
  I may agree with you that if someone glitches once or twice, they shouldn't be permabanned. However, I doubt that's what going on here. My guess is that most people being banned are people who are abusing the shit out of these glitches. That said, I don't even own this game, but I've played plenty of CoD and other multi-player games in the past to know that these kind of people are usually annoying little 14 year olds, who think they're funny and cool cause they can cheat. Glitchy or not, I can manage to play all my games without the desire to even glitch once, just to be funny or try it out. I play how you're supposed to play, by the rules and within the game's geometry. So I really have no sympathy for these people, even if they did only do something a couple times. You wanna do it in single player? Fine. Keep it there, offline.
  

  21.11.2011 19:00 #12

• KillerBug

  Originally posted by core2kid: Banning for using glitches in the game is ridiculous, I thought this was only for real "hackers". Totally agree. The only way to cheat should be hacking the game or the traffic; if you can enter a cheat code in multiplayer, that is a bug, if you can glitch yourself to be immortal, that is a bug.
  
  Bugs should be fixed.
  
  People should not be punished for taking advantage of terrain to defend themselves, even if that advantage makes them immortal. Next they are going to ban people for hiding behind walls.
  
  Oh, and I don't own the game...I stopped buying this series after MW2 because they still hadn't fixed all the problems with MW1.
  

  
  

  21.11.2011 22:47 #13

• brockie

  pointless playing if you use easy routes keep banning them.

  21.11.2011 23:23 #14

• plutonash

  I like everyone's logic. So if I were able to sneak into a high class bank or government building and steal valuable information from their system, I should be unpunished because I was able to take advantage of some security holes because their system wasn't completely secure, and it's really the their fault for not making it impossible?
  
  What these people are doing is wrong and making this game unfair for everyone else. They should be punished and taught the lesson the hard way. You wanna show a friend the glitch you found, show it in splitscreen not by ruining someone's killstreak.
  
  Regardless, the game has enough problems as it is besides cheating being one of them.
  

  "Cable thief is a victimless crime."

  22.11.2011 00:19 #15

• core2kid

  Originally posted by plutonash: I like everyone's logic. So if I were able to sneak into a high class bank or government building and steal valuable information from their system, I should be unpunished because I was able to take advantage of some security holes because their system wasn't completely secure, and it's really the their fault for not making it impossible?
  
  What these people are doing is wrong and making this game unfair for everyone else. They should be punished and taught the lesson the hard way. You wanna show a friend the glitch you found, show it in splitscreen not by ruining someone's killstreak.
  
  Regardless, the game has enough problems as it is besides cheating being one of them. They're not stealing anything. They're taking advantage of a flaw which can be patched. They're not harming anyone, they're only annoying people. It's Activisions job to patch these flaws.
  
  You really can't compare breaking into a bank with cheating.

  22.11.2011 00:23 #16

• Joe_1981

  But, they are harming people. The people that paid for the game and are playing it the way it's meant to be played. Fair! His bank logic works fine. You're saying it's OK to cheat and piss people off because there's a bug in the game? That makes no sense. It's people like that who ruin the online community for everyone. So if someone can exploit a bug where they stay invincible the whole game, that's OK and not grounds for being banned? They win 20 rounds in a row and never die and people can't kill them? Yes, that so fun and fair for the thousands of other people who bought the game and want to play it legit and have fun. I can't believe some people actually defend this type of behavior because it's "A glitch that can be patched". This is why online gaming sucks. Unbelievable!
  

  22.11.2011 00:32 #17

• core2kid

  Originally posted by Joe_1981: But, they are harming people. The people that paid for the game and are playing it the way it's meant to be played. Fair! His bank logic works fine. You're saying it's OK to cheat and piss people off because there's a bug in the game? That makes no sense. It's people like that who ruin the online community for everyone. So if someone can exploit a bug where they stay invincible the whole game, that's OK and not grounds for being banned? They win 20 rounds in a row and never die and people can't kill them? Yes, that so fun and fair for the thousands of other people who bought the game and want to play it legit and have fun. I can't believe some people actually defend this type of behavior because it's "A glitch that can be patched". This is why online gaming sucks. Unbelievable! You're talking as though every game has glitch abusers. The company can't sit on their ass and ban people, they need to get to work and fix the patches. Simple as that. Microsoft can't expect nobody to hack through Windows, AVS makers can't make the software and leave it. You need to update it as new things come out. Simple as that. I used the care package glitch in MW2 several times to show people, it was funny. By your rules, I should be banned. Now if someone hacked the game to be invincible by using a 3rd party utility, gladly go ahead and ban them.
  Take your theory and banning would be useless. On PS3 and PC, you can create another free username and go right back online. 360 you have to pay for Live again on the new username.
  Also if you're talking about the MW2 online community sucking, that's because IW left the game with a shit ton of flaws.

  22.11.2011 00:38 #18

• gnovak1

  Originally posted by plutonash: I like everyone's logic. So if I were able to sneak into a high class bank or government building and steal valuable information from their system, I should be unpunished because I was able to take advantage of some security holes because their system wasn't completely secure, and it's really the their fault for not making it impossible?
  
  What these people are doing is wrong and making this game unfair for everyone else. They should be punished and taught the lesson the hard way. You wanna show a friend the glitch you found, show it in splitscreen not by ruining someone's killstreak.
  
  Regardless, the game has enough problems as it is besides cheating being one of them. I totally agree. All cheaters should be banned period.

  22.11.2011 01:19 #19

• DVDBack23

  Originally posted by gnovak1: Originally posted by plutonash: I like everyone's logic. So if I were able to sneak into a high class bank or government building and steal valuable information from their system, I should be unpunished because I was able to take advantage of some security holes because their system wasn't completely secure, and it's really the their fault for not making it impossible?
  
  What these people are doing is wrong and making this game unfair for everyone else. They should be punished and taught the lesson the hard way. You wanna show a friend the glitch you found, show it in splitscreen not by ruining someone's killstreak.
  
  Regardless, the game has enough problems as it is besides cheating being one of them. I totally agree. All cheaters should be banned period. Yes +1
  

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  22.11.2011 02:12 #20

• core2kid

  Originally posted by DVDBack23: Originally posted by gnovak1: Originally posted by plutonash: I like everyone's logic. So if I were able to sneak into a high class bank or government building and steal valuable information from their system, I should be unpunished because I was able to take advantage of some security holes because their system wasn't completely secure, and it's really the their fault for not making it impossible?
  
  What these people are doing is wrong and making this game unfair for everyone else. They should be punished and taught the lesson the hard way. You wanna show a friend the glitch you found, show it in splitscreen not by ruining someone's killstreak.
  
  Regardless, the game has enough problems as it is besides cheating being one of them. I totally agree. All cheaters should be banned period. Yes +1 You guys are just promoting crappy game making and banning for IW. Switch topics to "Should Sony ban people for jailbreaking the PS3" and most of you would switch over to the other side and say "No". MW3 hackers annoy, not harm you. Jailbreaking PS3s annoy and potentially harm Sony.

  22.11.2011 02:16 #21

• Joe_1981

  Yes, they need to fix bugs and glitches. That doesn't excuse the people that exploit them while the company is working on a fix. Some glitches take longer to fix than others. They can't just snap their fingers and have it patched. These people simply get banned because they're causing the game to be unplayable for everyone else. That's why they get banned. It doesn't mean IW isn't working on fixes. They have to patch the PS3, XBox and PC. And with so many millions of people playing all the franchises, glitches are gonna pop up and be discovered far more often than an unpopular that has very few players. At the end of the day, IW is obviously working on fixing the bugs, but that doesn't excuse people from using them. This isn't the same as jailbreaking the PS3. This affects IW, SONY and Microsoft's customers. Angry customers are not gonna come back. So the glitchers get banned to keep the legit users happy.
  

  22.11.2011 02:25 #22

• core2kid

  Originally posted by Joe_1981: Yes, they need to fix bugs and glitches. That doesn't excuse the people that exploit them while the company is working on a fix. Some glitches take longer to fix than others. They can't just snap their fingers and have it patched. These people simply get banned because they're causing the game to be unplayable for everyone else. That's why they get banned. It doesn't mean IW isn't working on fixes. They have to patch the PS3, XBox and PC. And with so many millions of people playing all the the franchise, glitches are gonna pop up and be discovered far more often than an unpopular that has very few players. At the end of the day, IW is obviously working on fixing the bugs, but that doesn't excuse people from using them. Lord all mighty! Half of Activision's time is going to go to banning people instead of making the damn patch. MW3 is a money making scheme. MW2 could have easily been patched, they left it as is and made another game. Watch it happen again. They'll ban 50% of their community, make another game that everybody will buy, start banning, repeat.
  Also you're talking as though cheaters are in every single game. With all of MW2s glitches, I had to leave a game twice at max to get out of a lobby with cheaters. Even with cheaters I was able to win 90% of the time and I'm not that great of a player.
  
  Suspension until a patch is released is a better option.

  22.11.2011 02:35 #23

• JOHNSTARR

  I've been on vacation for the past week so I'm unaware of MW3 glitches right now. Is the glitch easy to do where a non cheater could accidentally do it??? I'm for cheaters being IP banned to keep them out of my matches but you know there will be many innocent peeps that get screwed and that SUX!!!
  
  
  

  No time for Leap frog!!!

  22.11.2011 03:44 #24

• KillerBug

  Originally posted by core2kid: Originally posted by Joe_1981: Yes, they need to fix bugs and glitches. That doesn't excuse the people that exploit them while the company is working on a fix. Some glitches take longer to fix than others. They can't just snap their fingers and have it patched. These people simply get banned because they're causing the game to be unplayable for everyone else. That's why they get banned. It doesn't mean IW isn't working on fixes. They have to patch the PS3, XBox and PC. And with so many millions of people playing all the the franchise, glitches are gonna pop up and be discovered far more often than an unpopular that has very few players. At the end of the day, IW is obviously working on fixing the bugs, but that doesn't excuse people from using them. Lord all mighty! Half of Activision's time is going to go to banning people instead of making the damn patch. MW3 is a money making scheme. MW2 could have easily been patched, they left it as is and made another game. Watch it happen again. They'll ban 50% of their community, make another game that everybody will buy, start banning, repeat.
  Also you're talking as though cheaters are in every single game. With all of MW2s glitches, I had to leave a game twice at max to get out of a lobby with cheaters. Even with cheaters I was able to win 90% of the time and I'm not that great of a player.
  
  Suspension until a patch is released is a better option. You have to ask...where do you draw the line? If are hiding in an area that can only be gotten to by jumping near a grenade as it does off, are you cheating? If you avoid getting shot because someone else's console glitches while they are trying to reload, are you cheating? If you are a bad shot and you think you got a headshot but you didn't, is the other guy cheating?
  

  
  

  22.11.2011 03:45 #25

• buxtahuda

  All I have to say is that glitches have existed peacefully and gleefully since we've started producing games. It's in the nature of it, somewhere some negligent code is going to give some creative players some fun and eventually be heavily exploited. At which point you don't go around ruining your customers' data, you throw out a fix. No more exploitation of something that was legitimately there, and now you can move on to other problems which need fixing.
  
  This route is just going to be a completely useless endeavor into pissing people off. This won't stop people using it, fixing it does that. It's like cops that want to mess around with the sh*thead little teen when there's plenty of crack, meth, and violence to go take care of. Nothing more than laziness and carelessness.
  

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  22.11.2011 13:02 #26

• DVDBack23

  Originally posted by core2kid: Originally posted by DVDBack23: Originally posted by gnovak1: Originally posted by plutonash: I like everyone's logic. So if I were able to sneak into a high class bank or government building and steal valuable information from their system, I should be unpunished because I was able to take advantage of some security holes because their system wasn't completely secure, and it's really the their fault for not making it impossible?
  
  What these people are doing is wrong and making this game unfair for everyone else. They should be punished and taught the lesson the hard way. You wanna show a friend the glitch you found, show it in splitscreen not by ruining someone's killstreak.
  
  Regardless, the game has enough problems as it is besides cheating being one of them. I totally agree. All cheaters should be banned period. Yes +1 You guys are just promoting crappy game making and banning for IW. Switch topics to "Should Sony ban people for jailbreaking the PS3" and most of you would switch over to the other side and say "No". MW3 hackers annoy, not harm you. Jailbreaking PS3s annoy and potentially harm Sony. This isn't true. Cheating, glitching, exploiting, hacking, whatever you want to call it, should get you banned. Jailbreaking without piracy is also good and does not hurt Sony. A lot of people in this thread have even admitted to not owning MW3! How can you complain against these bannings if you don't have the game? Seriously
  

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  22.11.2011 14:19 #27

• SomeBozo

  How about a fair compromise...
  
  Since these glitches will probably exists, since software is written by people and thus imperfect... Have two sets of servers running for people to choose which to play on. "Cheaters and like a-holes", "Honest players looking for a good game".
  
  Might seem simple, but users could choose which servers to play on, if you cheat or use a glitch on the wrong server then you're license and copy are banned, even better by joining a given server, you are consenting to the agreement and would legally stand up.
  
  Good compromise and everyone can play as desired.
  
  

  22.11.2011 14:38 #28

• core2kid

  Originally posted by SomeBozo: How about a fair compromise...
  
  Since these glitches will probably exists, since software is written by people and thus imperfect... Have two sets of servers running for people to choose which to play on. "Cheaters and like a-holes", "Honest players looking for a good game".
  
  Might seem simple, but users could choose which servers to play on, if you cheat or use a glitch on the wrong server then you're license and copy are banned, even better by joining a given server, you are consenting to the agreement and would legally stand up.
  
  Good compromise and everyone can play as desired.
  Too bad Activision is a bunch of a-holes that won't do that. Account suspension until a patch is released is what they should do.
  
  I'll just keep playing COD4. Best COD game ever made. Yea, there's hacks but at least there's no knifing from 200 feet away.

  22.11.2011 14:58 #29

• wiseguy0

  Originally posted by buxtahuda: Originally posted by xaznboitx: Originally posted by buxtahuda: That's a little messed up. Nothing new in the world though, of course they would. Easier to just ban people than make your product stable, amirite?
  
  I mean, I know people that have randomly found some of those glitches and are using them; a bit f***ed up in my mind they may get their accounts banned for finding and subsequently using the neglected problems. Don't want people popping into a glitch, don't make it so retarded easy.
  
  And don't I remember them saying at one point about MW2 that they embrace the glitches and the ingenuity of people for finding them? Something along those lines, thinking of another title perhaps? I bet you're one of them lol no. I don't even own the game yet, and I don't think I will thank you. Too buggy. Get stuck on everything, glitches left and right, only saving grace is Spec Ops Survival which I'm pretty sure is only so good because TreyArch helped with a bit of it.
  
  I'll stick to all my zombies maps on Black Ops thanks, there was more marketing put into this latest release than there was effort on the actual game, IMO
  
  And I understand people not liking it, but really, what game vulnerability do people not exploit? Quick/No-scoping is still *rampant. Why? Not because we've done anything. Because they haven't properly tested their product and they don't do anything to really change/innovate the games and their experiences in the first place.
  
  Regardless of all this opinion, it's messed up people will lose their entire accounts (hell, reset their KD ratios or something) because IW just wanted to make as much money as possible and put this thing on the market ASAP. Nothing new, but I'd be pissed if I bought this game and that Elite service only to have my account banned for mucking about with a problem that's probably been there since pre-beta stages.
  
  Fix the problem, don't ban the people making it obvious a fix is needed.
  
  Originally posted by plutonash: I welcome this, tired of being glitching themselves inside a tank and being invulnerable for the whole game. And they're not invulnerable, just hard to pinpoint. I've seen my buddy kill two people chilling in both tanks outside the hangar in Outpost because he kept dying without seeing anyone; just shot the hell out of 'em.
  
  *Don't know how that word got deleted...
  
  I love how you don't own the game but still feel so confident in your opinion of it. Kudos!

  22.11.2011 15:19 #30

• Joe_1981

  The problem with people who are arguing that it's wrong for IW to ban glitchers is, I guarantee you these aren't just one time offenders. If you were to glitch once or twice, I guarantee you, you would not get a permaban. I'm more than confident in assuming that if you got banned from playing all together, you were whoring a glitch to up your experience, rank or just plain being a dick cause you think you're funny or cool. I don't care if the game is broken or if IW takes forever to release a patch. You're not supposed to cheat or glitch. It states very clearly in XBox Live's terms of service, SONY's terms of service and probably Activision's terms of service when you play on the PC. I don't care if you think IW is lazy. You know glitching could get you banned. So why do it and then whine when you get the boot? "I didn't know that going outside of the map where I'm invincible was wrong, I only did it for about 50 rounds and got 1,000 extra kills unfairly because people couldn't kill me". People are just so stupid. It's like touching a hot stove repeatedly and then wanting to sue the stove manufacturer cause you burned your hand.
  

  22.11.2011 17:34 #31

• L-Burna

  I think its a steep punishment to ban people from online, but if you don't like hacks/glitches/mods etc....then why the hell would you play online. I think every game that is online has some sort of glitch/hack/mod. I don't agree with the bans and people need to lighten up it's just a game.

  22.11.2011 18:05 #32

• Brawly

  Originally posted by core2kid: Originally posted by plutonash: I like everyones logic. So if I were able to sneak into a high class bank or government building and steal valuable information from their system, I should be unpunished because I was able to take advantage of some security holes because their system wasnt completely secure, and its really the their fault for not making it impossible?
  
  What these people are doing is wrong and making this game unfair for everyone else. They should be punished and taught the lesson the hard way. You wanna show a friend the glitch you found, show it in splitscreen not by ruining someones killstreak.
  
  Regardless, the game has enough problems as it is besides cheating being one of them. Theyre not stealing anything. Theyre taking advantage of a flaw which can be patched. Theyre not harming anyone, theyre only annoying people. Its Activisions job to patch these flaws.
  
  You really cant compare breaking into a bank with cheating.

  22.11.2011 19:02 #33

• Brawly

  Originally posted by core2kid: Originally posted by plutonash: I like everyone's logic. So if I were able to sneak into a high class bank or government building and steal valuable information from their system, I should be unpunished because I was able to take advantage of some security holes because their system wasn't completely secure, and it's really the their fault for not making it impossible?
  
  What these people are doing is wrong and making this game unfair for everyone else. They should be punished and taught the lesson the hard way. You wanna show a friend the glitch you found, show it in splitscreen not by ruining someone's killstreak.
  
  Regardless, the game has enough problems as it is besides cheating being one of them. They're not stealing anything. They're taking advantage of a flaw which can be patched. They're not harming anyone, they're only annoying people. It's Activisions job to patch these flaws.
  
  You really can't compare breaking into a bank with cheating. Wow. Wrong is wrong. Unfortunately guys like you have a serious personal exploit, or glitch... a lack of a conscience, and no sense of doing the right and moral thing. And you hide behind idiotic statements like, "Thats Infiniti Wards problem, they need to patch their game." Really..? Look the bottom line is this, all of you out there who believe no one should be banned for cheating lose anyway. How do I know? Cuz Infinity Ward has earned in excess of $900 Million in sales - so the masses keep buying. Infinity Ward has and is continuing to ban players for violating the rules of conduct regarding online multiplaying. They run the servers, they set the rules. It's really simple, just don't violate the rules of conduct. Play the game the way the developers intended, and quit trying to justify cheating and getting away with it. Sheesh!

  22.11.2011 19:16 #34

• ajennice

  Ok.. stealing from a bank and cheating on a MP game is different because no one is stealing from you... OK.. how about sppeding. It's flawed!! Why have a car than go 100+ and set limits fro 55-65..YOU know the limit and it's up to you to risk punishment to break that law. If you abide by it, you NEVER get punished. EVERY time you do break it you risk that punishment.
  
  I'd reset all their game stats, suspend them for a period, then ban them from some variants or altogether.
  It's not Activisions responsibility to PATCH anything. Unless the game serves a major health threath, they under no obligation to fix anything. If it was released bugged, you bought it bugged (as many people already say they KNEW it woulf be buggy before release), then you bought what they sold. Sitting on their asses is up to them. They've got your cash, you're still playing, and unless you know how to recode parameters and lines, then you've got no room to talk. I'd rather rewrite a new game then change ingame parameters (simply b/c every line you change effect millions of others, so you'rte constantly checking millions ands millions for every small change).
  If no one likes the hacks, then just don't play. I'm sur eno one wil notice, but YES ban the nackers/glitchers and make it serious enought to catch attention...OH.. ban the gamertags, not the consoles.. easy to tyrade in a console and get back in the same day.. Bend over somone with a 100,000+ gamerscore, and they'll not be giving up all that progress to be back.
  

  25.11.2011 13:22 #35

• SomeBozo

  Originally posted by ajennice:
  If no one likes the hacks, then just don't play. The problem with your argument goes like this, if you don't like other's comment because they don't agree with you, then you shouldn't comment, if you don't like it, well don't read or join the site here. Sorry if this sounds harsh or i'm trying to be rude, i'm not. My point is people play the game to interact with others in a meaningful way. Just as much as your comments add value to the discussion, but your solution to the issue is not a workable solution.
  
  My real problem with your point is those who play honest and by the rules, if they don't like it when other cheat, get over it they have as much freedom to play the game they want. Sorry, but you're not making it fair for all, and actually making it beneficial for only those who cheat and abuse the system.
  
  Surely there is a better solution where those who bought the game and have a fair, honest, good game.
  

  25.11.2011 13:44 #36

• ajennice

  Originally posted by SomeBozo: Originally posted by ajennice:
  If no one likes the hacks, then just don't play. The problem with your argument goes like this, if you don't like other's comment because they don't agree with you, then you shouldn't comment, if you don't like it, well don't read or join the site here. Sorry if this sounds harsh or i'm trying to be rude, i'm not. My point is people play the game to interact with others in a meaningful way. Just as much as your comments add value to the discussion, but your solution to the issue is not a workable solution.
  
  My real problem with your point is those who play honest and by the rules, if they don't like it when other cheat, get over it they have as much freedom to play the game they want. Sorry, but you're not making it fair for all, and actually making it beneficial for only those who cheat and abuse the system.
  
  Surely there is a better solution where those who bought the game and have a fair, honest, good game. I'm not implying that you should just say screw it and walk away. I'm saying since the first online MP game, there has been various exploits. When you buy a game 75% based on playing onlkine, you SHOULD expect exploits. Every game will have some holes in it which peopl will exploit to get advantages. I don;t play the game online due to these people. I don't thinnkI am missing much as every MP onine shooting game is basically the same.
  I do not condone the cheaters, but if the games programmers are not going to patch the issues, then you either Do have to deal with it, decide not to play, or join the crowd.
  I was pretty much saying since the CoD MP craze began there have been numerous issues wit the MP gameplay as far as hacks/cheat/glitches.. Every year people should expect more the same from that game title. The bugger is that we the consumers are partialy responsible for it. I mean they turned out a hole filled game and we lined up to buy it, they see issues and are not rushing to do anything and we're still playing, they're designing the nex tone.. and we'll still get in lines to get it. As long as the lobbies are full, the game is selling and the demand it MORE MORE MORE, then we're just empowering them to put out more hole filled games.
  
  These bans/suspensions do not scare people though.. HAlO is 2 days then 2 weeks.. OOOHHH makes me not want to cheat or boost..I do not know what COD is but banningthe Gamertag woudl mean that player NOW has to create a new GT, pay for LIVE and is on watch(console ID#), but that is too much work (Sarcasm) for them to do as, they're more worried about getting paying players onto their game.
  

  25.11.2011 16:18 #37

• Dtester

  Originally posted by core2kid: Take your theory and banning would be useless. On PS3 and PC, you can create another free username and go right back online. 360 you have to pay for Live again on the new username. Hmm, not quite.
  
  PC is Steam based, VAC bans the the mp of the game for that SteamID. You would have to buy a new copy of the game and put it onto a new SteamID if your original was banned.
  
  PS3 is a Hardware ban (I think) so you would have to buy/play on a different PS3.
  
  360 is hardware or Live ban. So what you say is true for a Live ban...else you would need a different XBox for a hardware ban

  9.12.2011 06:49 #38

• Dtester

  Originally posted by L-Burna: I think its a steep punishment to ban people from online, but if you don't like hacks/glitches/mods etc....then why the hell would you play online. I think every game that is online has some sort of glitch/hack/mod. I don't agree with the bans and people need to lighten up it's just a game. If they get banned it's no big deal! It's just a game right? Banned people should "Lighted up", right?

  9.12.2011 15:12 #39

• namne_ragekillz

  Originally posted by buxtahuda: That's a little messed up. Nothing new in the world though, of course they would. Easier to just ban people than make your product stable, amirite?
  
  I mean, I know people that have randomly found some of those glitches and are using them; a bit f***ed up in my mind they may get their accounts banned for finding and subsequently using the neglected problems. Don't want people popping into a glitch, don't make it so retarded easy.
  
  And don't I remember them saying at one point about MW2 that they embrace the glitches and the ingenuity of people for finding them? Something along those lines, thinking of another title perhaps? I have no problem with people using glitches that are inadvertently left in the game by the programmers. What I take issue with are the god forsaken morons who can't play the game without an aimbot that draws the sights of their guns directly to the head of an opponent who is across the map with three walls between him and the chap shooting at him. Those are the fools that need to be banned because they haven't exploited a programming glitch they have created new programming code that allows them to kill anybody in the game at will. Take for instance the video at the link below.
  
  http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xmc6o6...load_videogames
  
  

  1.5.2012 09:01 #40

• xboxdvl2

  simple rules we use to stand by when playing games.if its in the game its not cheating.hacking or modifying the game is cheating using an exploit in a game isnt cheating.if i walked in a bank and asked for everyone account details and they gave it to me thats not hacking the bank.if i illegally gained access to everyones bank details that is hacking the bank.
  

  R.I.P. mr 1990 ford falcon.got myself a 1993 toyota corolla seems to run good.computers still going good.

  1.5.2012 11:26 #41