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Report: 100GB Blu-ray discs with 4K support already in production

Although the Blu-ray Disc Association has not confirmed, Singulus has claimed that they have been providing machine tech to support triple-layer Blu-ray Discs.

The Singulus BLULINE III discs can support up to 100GB of storage, enough to print a 4K (UltraHD) movie.



While the content will be available through streaming services like Sony Unlimited and Netflix, the huge size of the files makes discs a viable option.

The biggest question is whether current-gen Blu-ray players, including the PS3, will support the new discs via a firmware update. It absolutely seems possible, but there will still likely be 4K Blu-ray players in the future when the format becomes more mainstream.

Written by: Andre Yoskowitz @ 12 Sep 2013 22:48

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• Mr-Movies

  Great now I can use my new 150GB Laptop Blu-ray burner finally.
  
  Will the PS3 and other legacy equipment be able to be made relevant through flashing? Very doubtful I'd say as there will be LASER issues with the additional layers associated with these discs.
  

  13.9.2013 12:17 #1

• Interestx

  Given the cost & low sales of the current 50gb dual layer discs I have real trouble in seeing these undoubtedly more expensive (and risky?) home burning triple layer ones taking off.
  

  13.9.2013 13:24 #2

• omegaman7

  I don't even fully trust double layer discs, and you wanna move to triple? Great...
  

  
  
  Star Trek High Definition is only possible while theyre receiving return for their efforts. Pirate Star Trek, and their efforts will have no choice but to cease :(

  13.9.2013 13:33 #3

• DarthMopar

  The BluRay format (although great for movies) never really got the market penetration of DVDs. I seriously doubt 4K disc players will do even as well as BD did. The jump from SD to HD was so great that anyone that saw it could immediately tell the difference. After viewing a 4K demo in a big box store, I wasn't that impressed. Sure, it's sharper...but you really have to see them side-by side to see any significant difference -that alone will make it a tough sell convincing consumers to upgrade.
  

  13.9.2013 14:02 #4

• omegaman7

  Indeed. Higher quality is all fine and good, but they're gonna need another selling point, in my opinion ;)
  

  
  
  Star Trek High Definition is only possible while theyre receiving return for their efforts. Pirate Star Trek, and their efforts will have no choice but to cease :(

  13.9.2013 14:04 #5

• Mr-Movies

  Not for me, better is better! Unless it is ungodly expensive, which it will be at first. What killed DL-DVD's for many years was expense.
  
  In that same aspect I would like to move up to 480 ClearMotion instead of the 120 crap I now have in my latest TV, that doesn't work so great at that.
  
  But to each his own. For instance my idea of enjoying music isn't playing it on my MP3 player with headphones. Instead I prefer a reasonably good HiFi system, in my case around $20K to $30K USD surround sound system.
  
  I guess I like fidelity not low-Fi...
  :D
  

  13.9.2013 14:27 #6

• omegaman7

  I have seen 720P projected upwards of 118 inches in width. It still looked quite good. Heck, even 480P was respectable. I haven't even seen 1080P, but I imagine it's quite good ;) The only way I see myself benefiting from 4K, is if I'm projecting beyond 200", and sitting quite close LOL!
  
  4K does have it's place however. I could certainly use the realestate on a PC :D
  

  
  
  Star Trek High Definition is only possible while theyre receiving return for their efforts. Pirate Star Trek, and their efforts will have no choice but to cease :(

  13.9.2013 14:52 #7

• Mrguss

  Good luck with the coasters.
  

  +5000

  13.9.2013 15:15 #8

• joe777

  Soon we will be needing more new tv's for the higher resolution, jeez, I just got a 3D 1080p last year. This disc system has to go also. A mean come on folks talk about trying to flog a dead horse. We want pen drives and sd/micro cards etc as a medium. To hell with disc's, lasers and optical drives altogether. Te future should be 1Tb SSD for 50/60 Euros Lol. 100gig micro sd or usb etc FTW

  13.9.2013 15:52 #9

• Mr-Movies

  Originally posted by omegaman7: I have seen 720P projected upwards of 118 inches in width. It still looked quite good. Heck, even 480P was respectable. I haven't even seen 1080P, but I imagine it's quite good ;) The only way I see myself benefiting from 4K, is if I'm projecting beyond 200", and sitting quite close LOL!
  
  4K does have it's place however. I could certainly use the real-estate on a PC :D For a 32in TV fine you may not, I stress may not (because I probably would), see the benefit but on 50, 60, 70in TV's it sure would be nice. It is almost always better to have higher resolution, there is a point of no return of course, unless you are one of the masses these days that can't tell the difference.
  
  You did fail the color test. LOL
  

  13.9.2013 16:55 #10

• omegaman7

  Well, I do not have 20/20 vision, so :p It is possible that on a 70", with perfect vision, I may notice a difference if the two resolutions were compared side by side.
  

  
  
  Star Trek High Definition is only possible while theyre receiving return for their efforts. Pirate Star Trek, and their efforts will have no choice but to cease :(

  13.9.2013 18:41 #11

• ivymike

  Originally posted by Interestx: Given the cost & low sales of the current 50gb dual layer discs I have real trouble in seeing these undoubtedly more expensive (and risky?) home burning triple layer ones taking off. And to think that they're gonna be introducing QUAD-LAYER blu-ray discs soon.....

  13.9.2013 19:55 #12

• Mr-Movies

  Originally posted by omegaman7: Well, I do not have 20/20 vision, so :p It is possible that on a 70", with perfect vision, I may notice a difference if the two resolutions were compared side by side. Like I said you failed the colour test.... :D
  
  You know I'm pulling your chain,
  Stevo
  
  Originally posted by ivymike: Originally posted by Interestx: Given the cost & low sales of the current 50gb dual layer discs I have real trouble in seeing these undoubtedly more expensive (and risky?) home burning triple layer ones taking off. And to think that they're gonna be introducing QUAD-LAYER blu-ray discs soon..... They should I've had the burner for them for almost a year now.
  

  13.9.2013 20:07 #13

• ZippyDSM

  Pointless unless they can support all bly ray players.
  
  Move on to the 1TB discs already.
  

  Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
  
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  Check out my crappy creations
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  13.9.2013 20:27 #14

• djgizmo

  The problem is even if current Bluray players can be flashed/updated firmware, they don't have the HDMI hardware to transmit beyond 1080p.
  
  HDMI 2.0 was just recently announced, but both devices need to support it in order for 4k resolution to be transmitted.

  13.9.2013 22:34 #15

• DarthMopar

  Originally posted by omegaman7: Well, I do not have 20/20 vision, so :p It is possible that on a 70", with perfect vision, I may notice a difference if the two resolutions were compared side by side. Box store demo I saw (Best Buy) had 1080P on one 56 in. Sony TV, and 4K on one of the new 56 in. 4K HD Sony TVs, side by side. Sofa was set about 8ft in front of them. I sat and watched for about 15 minutes, and I have to be honest, 4K looked slightly better, but only if I payed really close attention. If they didn't have the signs advertising it, I would have thought it was just a nice 1080P TV. It's just not that big enough of a difference to justify the price. I'm perfectly happy with my 70in. 1080 LED...I don't look at it and feel any desire for a sharper picture. (Of course, I don't have 20/20, either) :p
  

  13.9.2013 22:43 #16

• Mrguss

  Originally posted by DarthMopar: Originally posted by omegaman7: Well, I do not have 20/20 vision, so :p It is possible that on a 70", with perfect vision, I may notice a difference if the two resolutions were compared side by side. Box store demo I saw .....I sat and watched for about 15 minutes, and I have to be honest, 4K looked slightly better, but only if I payed really close attention. If they didn't have the signs advertising it, I would have thought it was just a nice 1080P TV. It's just not that big enough of a difference to justify the price... Because both TV's was playing a demo(s) 1080p blu-ray disc(s) on a blu-ray player(s)
  set at 1080p !?
  

  +5000

  14.9.2013 15:15 #17

• DarthMopar

  Originally posted by Mrguss: Originally posted by DarthMopar: Originally posted by omegaman7: Well, I do not have 20/20 vision, so :p It is possible that on a 70", with perfect vision, I may notice a difference if the two resolutions were compared side by side. Box store demo I saw .....I sat and watched for about 15 minutes, and I have to be honest, 4K looked slightly better, but only if I payed really close attention. If they didn't have the signs advertising it, I would have thought it was just a nice 1080P TV. It's just not that big enough of a difference to justify the price... Because both TV's was playing a demo(s) 1080p blu-ray disc(s) on a blu-ray player(s)
  set at 1080p !? No, one was playing 4k media through an Ultra 4k Sony box
  

  14.9.2013 17:41 #18

• adre02

  Not a big deal at all. Why would it be such a big deal?
  

  This is superman

  19.9.2013 11:44 #19

• omegaman7

  Originally posted by adre02: Not a big deal at all. Why would it be such a big deal? To some it's a big deal. To each his/her own ;)
  
  The ps3/ps4 is a joke to me. I'm not big on $ony. But I can see how others would see it as a big deal. To me, it is not :p
  
  I can't see my ever buying a triple/quad layer disc. Or any other disc which exceeds double layer. One little grain of dust, and all bets are off...
  

  
  
  Star Trek High Definition is only possible while theyre receiving return for their efforts. Pirate Star Trek, and their efforts will have no choice but to cease :(

  19.9.2013 11:58 #20

• ZippyDSM

  Originally posted by omegaman7: Originally posted by adre02: Not a big deal at all. Why would it be such a big deal? To some it's a big deal. To each his/her own ;)
  
  The ps3/ps4 is a joke to me. I'm not big on $ony. But I can see how others would see it as a big deal. To me, it is not :p
  
  I can't see my ever buying a triple/quad layer disc. Or any other disc which exceeds double layer. One little grain of dust, and all bets are off...
  The PS3 was a joke the PS4 is better priced and more powerful. This time around its better built than the 360. The only thing is the most you will see out of it is better loading times if that. Tho I am waiting on bad lens units and over heating issues to plague it.
  
  :P
  

  Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
  
  ---
  Check out my crappy creations
  http://zippydsmlee.deviantart.com/

  19.9.2013 12:14 #21