Cool. Is one megabyte/square millimetre all that much though?
14.11.2003 04:27 #1
Yes it is. One Mb/square mm = 1.4GB in about the space of a CD-R. Now imagine the layering possibilies. A memory cartridge similar in size to a VHS tape would have (surface area) * (layers) * 1MB/8 square mm. A VHS is approximately 20cm x 10cm x 2.5 cm, so assuming five layers, the cartridge would hold 12.5 GB. Assuming 10 layers, we get 25GB.
This is only new technology, however, and we may see compression as great as 1Mb/10000 square micrometers in which case our little CD-R would hold 140GB!
14.11.2003 04:46 #2
Well if it becomes a cheap memory solution then cool. But other than that a 1.4GB CD-sized solution isnīt that magnificent.
14.11.2003 06:12 #3
That sound so cool! Just think if they get good compression on that, like alxdotnet said, up to 140GB for the size of a CD-R!
Not bad for plastic!
14.11.2003 09:48 #4
How fast would it be capable of though?
14.11.2003 10:23 #5
Good question. That would depend on the type of connection, but independent of that it sounds like "burning" itself would be instantaneous.
Just read the New Scientist source. If this stuff can be printed, new possibilities arise. A standard book could hold: 8.5in x 11 in x 500 pages x 2 sides/page x 10000sqmm/sqin x 1 Mb/sqmm x 1 MB/8Mb = 377 Terabytes!!! Note that this is assuming the 1 megabit/square millimeter. If as I said in my previous post that they can squeeze this stuff into 1 Mb/10000 micrometer, then our five hundred page book can hold a grand total of 37 Petabytes. This is enough to record every second of your life, your parents life, your siblings life, and their grandkids lives. Think of the possibilites: the entire library of congress in a single book.
I don't think any current file system is capable of handling these space requirements.
Digital Video Recorder: $700
Trip to Disney World: $1000
Rides At The Park: included
Recording every second of the trip on your MasterCard itself: priceless.
14.11.2003 14:33 #6
It is not one MEGABYTE, it said MEGABIT per square mm. One megabit is 125,000 bytes, and one square CM of the stuff would hold 12.5 Megabytes. Not exactly mass storage, but decent for novelty items. Current compact flash cards have much higher density than this.
ZippyG
14.11.2003 16:11 #7
Quote:x 1 MB/8MbGot that part.
Actually you have a good point, for some reason I was using 100u x 1mm for 1 MB. Actual size of book = 215 TB
For increased compression, book holds 21.5 PB.
Thanks for the correction.
15.11.2003 02:59 #8
Now wait a minute guys... is there really anything to get jumpy about? let's wait and see who get's control of this new memory first, before we get all happy about it. if this new memory is that dense and can store that much info... wouldn't it be true that cd could store "extra bonus software" that as soon as you put the thing into a device connected to your pc that's capable of reading it, self install and send compromising data back to the record company without us even knowing it? just another way for "the man" to know what we do at all times right? then they in turn could be using the new found material to keep logs of everything. am i wrong about this possibility? i hope so.
16.11.2003 04:42 #9
It doesn't say anything about music CDs being made of this memory...
And nothing can install on your computer unless you give it permission, or unless they inform you about it beforehand.
16.11.2003 04:47 #10
This memory is not optical, and therefore no current CD or DVD drive would read it. I doubt any optical drive will ever read this memory.
Realistic useage would be in combination with OLED displays to make something like greeting cards with audio and video.
16.11.2003 10:16 #11
Quote:Realistic useage would be in combination with OLED displays to make something like greeting cards with audio and video.Exactly. The article says they are working on printing it, which means that they could do exactly that. Of course, if they ever figure out how to rewrite it...it would completely replace hard drives.
This technology would also function well within a GameBoy cartridge.
16.11.2003 12:08 #12
This stuff would replace the 80Gb platters HDīs use today. I doubt it. But for cheap temprorary use this material would be excelent. Greeting cards was a good example.
I just hope they donīt mess things up with standards.
16.11.2003 21:27 #13
Quote:This stuff would replace the 80Gb platters HDīs use today. I doubt it.If they ever figure out how to make it rewritable, it will.
17.11.2003 10:50 #14
Quote: and one square CM of the stuff would hold 12.5 Megabytes. Not exactly mass storage Like I said, I doubt theyīll make HDīs of the stuff.
18.11.2003 07:13 #15