Sony threatens PlayStation 3 hackers

After reports surfaced that hackers had cracked the PlayStation 3's anti-piracy software, Sony America has declared that it will "aggressively pursue" anyone who is caught doing so. They have said the activity will merit legal action if caught.

"Unfortunately, hackers will try to exploit any hardware system software," SCEA spokesperson Dave Karraker said.

"The best we can do as a company is to make our security that much stronger and aggressively pursue legal action against anyone caught trying to use an exploit in an illegal manner."

According to CVG.com, hackers have cracked the PS3 firmwares 1.10 and 1.11, which allow the consoles with those firmwares to boot pirated games.

Although the games boot, so far hackers have not gotten any pirated games to actually play.

So far, despite diligent efforts, all consoles have been hacked but there are some repercussions besides legal action. Hackers run the risk of bricking their expensive consoles, as well as getting banned from the PlayStation Network.

"Naturally, any use of an exploit on the system software does void the warranty on the PS3 system... Which could be a costly mistake to see if you can run an old SEGA CD game on it," said Karraker.

Source:
GI.biz

Written by: Andre Yoskowitz @ 13 Jun 2007 7:39

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66 comments

connorw09

This Happened to the xbox 360 too but ps3 is all shitty so I dont care.
Just Kidding :)

13.6.2007 07:52 #1

tucker001

Quote:anyone caught trying to use an exploit in an illegal mannerDoes this mean it is okay if you legally bought the game and want to play a backup copy?

13.6.2007 07:53 #2

stephen02

nope, you cant play backups yet anyway, they r just beating the hackers to it ll, microsoft is still trying to catch up with thier hackers, lots of modded consoles can still go on xbox live without having to worry about getting banned and now sony has done this before its hacked and games are playable.

13.6.2007 08:42 #3

salinger

Whether or not they get the hackers, keep in mind that there are 6 BILLION people on this planet. SOMEONE is gonna get there sooner or later. When i asked my console retailer (who sells copied games) whether or not the PS3 had a modchip yet he actually told me, "our chief technician has to study and familiarize with the console first; then he can make a modchip"
As you can see its just a matter of time before someone makes a hack and starts making big bucks. This is gonna lead other people to making better modchips and sooner or later the Ps3 will be like the Ps2 where you can even download and play games from the net!

13.6.2007 08:54 #4

Dela

I'm sorry to say it to Sony since,. right now, the company (at least gaming entertainment divisions) cannot suffer any more set backs, but come on, you spent $599 on a console, you "must" have the right to use the powerful hardware under the hood the way you see it.

I'm sick of all of this license agreement nonsense and the spin that tries to set it into your head that your own bloody console is not yours to do with as you like. Personally, I hope to see PS3 opened up to homebrew, might take a little time but can you imagine the motivation to develop software for something quite powerful.

Back on point though, it's very democratically unhealthy (if you can accept that as a description) for companies like this to shape law and enforce stupid limits on consumers. Your console will be hacked... now GET OVER IT!

13.6.2007 09:04 #5

salinger

Thanks Dela...you should work for Sony and get it into thier heads. Talking about doing what you want with your console; i have this RICH friend who bought a Ps3, did not like it, opened it, took out all the wires and junk, and............guess what; he made a BREAD box out of it! I was so pissed cuz i wanted one myself. Again, Sony, you console is the price of a cheap PC, so i think the consumer should have the right to make the most of it.

13.6.2007 09:09 #6

windsong

I see news of this supposed "threat" from Sony on a lot of other ps3 scene boards, and even Usenet. The hackers might have taken their sweet time with the console in hacking it..but now that Sony in their infinite arrogance once again is issuing threats..the hacking community will be THAT MUCH MORE DETERMINED to unzip that console and everything its worth.

If only Sony had left well enough alone.

13.6.2007 09:13 #7

georgeluv

Quote:
Does this mean it is okay if you legally bought the game and want to play a backup copy?its a grey area, some US laws say this is alowed, but first youll have to break the encryption on the original disk, and "bypassing electronic security measures" is against the law. once you actualy have the copied disk, your in the clear, the only thing illegal in what you want to do is the initial action of copying the game. simply possesiong or usuing the copied game is not illegal. i have actualy gone threw american airport security with binders and binders of copied movies and they didnt say shit.

also, modding your consoul in america is not illegal, you are alowed to fuck around with anything you buy, but i woudlnt publish the information you aquire though.

if you download the game from online and the security has already been taken out your even more in the clear.

13.6.2007 09:35 #8

UKDude007

It is not that I support hacking fully.

The only two "hacks" I am approved of is:

1.) Wallpaper changing.

Please dont get me wrong - that wallpaper of XMB looks good. It is just becoming bored wallpapers after a while. I just want to add more cheerful/bright wallpapers to XMB instead of dark, black gloomy wallpaper (I know it is due to time of day - but i can only play PS3 at nighttime since I got daytime job :( )./

2.) perhaps most important of all - stripping all those unnecessary region-protection for any online games.

I mean, I got HK PS3 right. I bought PAL version of RoF-M game as I was looking forward to play it online. But I couldn't do so because the game itself forbids me to access to European servers beausee my PS3 is not european! Cheeky of Sony - trying to impose barriers in cyberspace/internet! Internet should be free and accessible regardless of person's location/computer/PS3 around the world!

Also, this movement by Sony may infring human's right and freedom of speech. I mean, I wanted to play that game against my UK friends. Also I wanted to play against my best friends in HK and USA via Internet. I have no problem playing it online with them via MSN or any PC games. Yet Sony try to impose barrier on the internet with its PS3 network. cheeky!

13.6.2007 10:07 #9

Krmnnghia

Quote:i have actualy gone threw american airport security with binders and binders of copied movies and they didnt say shit. LOL haven't we all :)

13.6.2007 10:13 #10

edsrouter

I don't agree with the pirating of games. Other areas of technology that's being shared can be altered in another form to still produce quality revenue, but not games. Company X who develops games can't go to a major corporation and have them buy 1000 licenses of their latest game. You, the consumer, are the only source of revenue for the game developer and unless you want a Pepsi commercial to play just after you beat the big boss, I think we should all make an effort to never pirate games (or at least brand new games). I do think, however, copyright rules in the U.S. should be laxed across the board with some sort of sunset clause of about 10 years.

13.6.2007 10:25 #11

windsong

Originally posted by edsrouter:You, the consumer, are the only source of revenue for the game developer and unless you want a Pepsi commercial to play just after you beat the big boss.They've already starting doing this. Piracy has no connection with the infinite greed of corporations.
History of Nintendo's Greed:

http://www.gamingw.net/articles/74

13.6.2007 10:32 #12

WierdName

Originally posted by Dela:...you "must" have the right to use the powerful hardware under the hood the way you see it.Actually, I think there is a limit because pirating can be a way you see fit but you shouldn't.

Quote:I'm sick of all of this license agreement nonsense and the spin that tries to set it into your head that your own bloody console is not yours to do with as you like.Again, I do think that there should be limits such as pirating.

Quote:Personally, I hope to see PS3 opened up to homebrew, might take a little time but can you imagine the motivation to develop software for something quite powerful.Agreed. Provided you aren't breaking (real) laws, you should be able to use YOUR console that you paid a minimum of $500 for the way YOU see fit.

Quote:Back on point though, it's very democratically unhealthy (if you can accept that as a description) for companies like this to shape law and enforce stupid limits on consumers. Your console will be hacked... now GET OVER IT!Personally, I think they are in denial. They aren't excepting the fact that just like the PSP, with at least a semi-powerful system running on an OS, someone with hack it to use it the way they want, and restricting that will only turn away customers.

-EDIT ...or make the customers have a strong will to hack it just to stick it to Sony.

13.6.2007 10:44 #13

Dela

Oh i dont endorse pirating at all, I own 360 ands I have know-how to flash firmware and acquire games fast..... but instead i have chosen to buy my games for it. I guess it becomes a bit different wqhen you talk about older consoles with seriously overpriced games or games you simply "cant get" at target or gamestop anymore.

I have a modded PS2 and my biggest use for it is "SMS" to play XviD video from my HDD (sorta obsolete now that TVersity is here for my 360). I also have custom firmware for my PSP mainly because I like to check out the old PS1 games that have been gathering dust here since the 90s (great fun!).

I agree that pirating is bad and that security measures are put in place to stop it for good reason, but come on, spewing out legal threats to people who paid $599 for a console isn't such a great idea I believe personally. I don't think it should be a punishable offense to merely modify your console.

13.6.2007 11:57 #14

spydah

I think they all have gone off the deep end with the threats, and false promises about being hack proof. Its stupid to make get all bent out of shape. I know people who have modded their systems for all what homebrew and other nice functions you get from doing so. I also know people buy mod their system and buy the games to back them up and so forth. To Mod a system should not get them all worked up but if you used their system as a means to hack them or their servers or to due some so called terrorist act as they seem act like modding is. Lastly they should welcome it to honestly because that could potentially bring more sales to their system right now. You know how many people would brick or flat out kill their system trying to mod which could bring more sales if the homebrew, and other functions people come up with are worth it.

13.6.2007 12:39 #15

arcanix

Quote:After reports surfaced that hackers had cracked the PlayStation 3's anti-piracy software, Sony America has declared that it will "aggressively pursue" anyone who is caught doing so. They have said the activity will merit legal action if caught. Yeah, and we all know how well that worked on psp...

13.6.2007 12:44 #16

salinger

It did work quite well with the PSP. They made this software update that some no-smart people put on thier PSP, and it seriously limits the hacking you can do! They might do that for the PS3

13.6.2007 13:25 #17

WierdName

Originally posted by Dela:...but come on, spewing out legal threats to people who paid $599 for a console isn't such a great idea... I don't think it should be a punishable offense to merely modify your console.Agreed. This is just a step to far that will probably come back to bite them in the *.

13.6.2007 13:34 #18

Jlhfit

LOL.. SONY was so proud... "oh the ps3 will not able to be cracked.." Blah blah blah, Now they are thinking "oh sh*t" I guess we need to address "pirating and hacking but it still cant be cracked, but just in case.. but believe me it cant.. oh sh*t!!! we are cracked"
Has anyone figured out that with the increase in Technology comes the risk of hacking,pirating and cracking. Sorry, its a losing battle and the consumer isnt the one on the losing end. I do condone "piracy" and I really dont care what anyones opinion is about being against it nor do I care what you think about me. You may be the morally honest one and pay for everything but if I can get a break I WILL take it. If the "companies" do not are so worried about piracy, get out of the business. Then you dont have to worry about products being hacked,cracked or pirated.

Oh by the way... Al Gore invented hacking......just jokn

13.6.2007 15:47 #19

WierdName

Originally posted by Jlhfit:Oh by the way... Al Gore invented hacking...The lack of grammer through the rest of the post made it hard to understand but that right there was funny!

13.6.2007 17:36 #20

Jlhfit

Im sorry for the grammer we cant not be all be so well spoken.. Wait is that a double negative and a run-on?

13.6.2007 17:44 #21

WierdName

Yes, I believe that was a double negative and a run-on sentence.

13.6.2007 17:47 #22

fgamer

Their being so strong fisted about this because their only source of income from the PS3 is it's software sales. They'd probably continue to lose millions and millions of dollars if they let piracy get out of hand...although I still believe that Blu-ray media is too expensive and the Blu-ray burner needed. So I think Sony doesn't really have much to worry about. The PS3 games are like 20GB+ so it's definately going to be hard to pirate over the internet. So Sony should look at those facts and realize they have nother major to worry about, other than the lost of so many exclusive.

13.6.2007 19:59 #23

anubis66

i read that article about nintendo. damn they were evil. i see alot of their tactics in play with the wii right now.

13.6.2007 23:49 #24

WierdName

Originally posted by fgamer:Their being so strong fisted about this because their only source of income from the PS3 is it's software sales. They'd probably continue to lose millions and millions of dollars if they let piracy get out of hand...although I still believe that Blu-ray media is too expensive and the Blu-ray burner needed. So I think Sony doesn't really have much to worry about. The PS3 games are like 20GB+ so it's definately going to be hard to pirate over the internet. So Sony should look at those facts and realize they have nother major to worry about, other than the lost of so many exclusive.Actually, people won't need a Blu-ray burner and disks if they (PS3 hackers) can get an ISO loader working. However, they would need a big hard drive to store all of those games considering the size of them.

13.6.2007 23:54 #25

cyberv

Come on People Lets Get this thing straight First of all Sony or MS Does not care if there console is to be modified. modified or not they still get the income its just a press release we all know that they just produced 1 to 100 ratio in game making to make it clear both of them produced 1 out of 100 games out to be sold in the market. Making them the least looser when it comes to game making Plus a gain for there console. you may ask me why look at the Darkside of Business, an example of this is the Nintendo console what happen to them, poor sales you know why. No piracy, the logic is this why buy a cheaper console w/ expensive games where else you can buy a console thats expensive but a lot cheaper games. imagine for 54$ or maybe higher you can buy almost 10 pirated games else on originals you only get a shitty 1 mouthwatering game. The number one looser in this Piracy is the Game Makers They lost 80% of the market co'z the moment a cd gets into the hands of a winning piracy. Good bye Income, sorry for the Programmers your game is now almost free w/ the effort of creating it for weeks. the saying will someday be true that "Piracy kills Creativity" who would want to excert an effort in making a game that you work for weeks,hours or even months that just be sold for 2$. Grow up, To sum it up

Console makers w/ Pirated games (Winner)
Console makers w/ out Pirated Games (Looser)
Games W/ Anti Piracy ( Winner)
Games that can be Pirated (Looser)

Make Sense

14.6.2007 00:36 #26

cyberv

14.6.2007 00:50 #27

cyberv

Quote:Originally posted by fgamer:Their being so strong fisted about this because their only source of income from the PS3 is it's software sales. They'd probably continue to lose millions and millions of dollars if they let piracy get out of hand...although I still believe that Blu-ray media is too expensive and the Blu-ray burner needed. So I think Sony doesn't really have much to worry about. The PS3 games are like 20GB+ so it's definately going to be hard to pirate over the internet. So Sony should look at those facts and realize they have nother major to worry about, other than the lost of so many exclusive.Actually, people won't need a Blu-ray burner and disks if they (PS3 hackers) can get an ISO loader working. However, they would need a big hard drive to store all of those games considering the size of them.
I Hate Over Prized Games but at the Same time I hate Piracy but to come and think of it. I wish they could have at least make the games cheaper in exchange of a deal that no more piracy rather than fighting them and making modders more determined. In My Opinion if I make something w/ my full effort I should at least make good of it in return. But if my effort is put to none I'ed rather not make them anymore and keep it to myself, as i say before my past posts "Piracy will Surely kill Creativity". Someday no more games will be made

14.6.2007 00:59 #28

duckNrun

Dont you all realize what this Sony message is REALLY about:

They are throwing down the gauntlet to the hackers IN THE HOPES that they will go out and BUY the ps3 to boost sales!

they aint worried about piracy or modding at all... what they ARE worried about is lagging sales, product sitting on shelves, reduced orders for more product and running out of propaganda to help give the false image that they are winnning the (name your war here).

The very nature of this letter from Sony gives the impression that this is a VERY BIG issue right now (which it is not) which gives the (false) impression that the ps3 is entrenched enough (it is not) for it to even be a big issue...

just more Sony propaganda!

lol

14.6.2007 02:01 #29

UKDude007

Originally posted by duckNrun:Dont you all realize what this Sony message is REALLY about:

They are throwing down the gauntlet to the hackers IN THE HOPES that they will go out and BUY the ps3 to boost sales!

they aint worried about piracy or modding at all... what they ARE worried about is lagging sales, product sitting on shelves, reduced orders for more product and running out of propaganda to help give the false image that they are winnning the (name your war here).

The very nature of this letter from Sony gives the impression that this is a VERY BIG issue right now (which it is not) which gives the (false) impression that the ps3 is entrenched enough (it is not) for it to even be a big issue...

just more Sony propaganda!

lolIf Sony truly worries about the lagging sales, then for start - Sony should remove the region-protection from online experiences fors start! It will encourage more sales as people would buy games and play it against anyone around the world.

no wonder why Xbox Live is so popular over PS Network because Xbox live doesn't have that "region-protection"!

I never understand why Sony wanted to implement the region-protection for online experience, and yet they encourage all games to be "region-free"! a bunch of hypocritical, Sony executives are...

Good thing the God of Playstatoin (I forgot his name but you know who I refer to) is retiring from Sony, to distance himself and his reputation from this fiasco!

Sony - soon you remove region protection, it will improve your sales. Simple business lesson for you, - for free of charge!

14.6.2007 04:43 #30

salinger

You people are geniuses. I never would have though of the sales boost conspiracy! WOW!

14.6.2007 04:48 #31

windsong

Quote:Good thing the God of Playstatoin (I forgot his name but you know who I refer to) is retiring from Sony, to distance himself and his reputation from this fiasco!That would be "Krazy Ken Kuratagi". Loudest mouth in the east, and the bane to PR gurus everywhere. In MBA graduate programs, his verbal diarrhea is used as a fine example of what *not* to say in public.

14.6.2007 08:58 #32

hursty

Piracy should not be tolerated...just look what happened to long john silver,he lost a leg,and a eye

14.6.2007 09:44 #33

anubis66

i think the region protection is to save bandwidth on the few servers they have, aswell and the dev's servers. its alot cheaper to space them out than to let them connect.

14.6.2007 09:52 #34

Fiji5555

Originally posted by hursty:Piracy should not be tolerated...just look what happened to long john silver,he lost a leg,and a eye
Arrrrrrrrrrrr the scurvey dogs....then they took his good name and put it on a fast food fish shop.

14.6.2007 10:40 #35

WierdName

Quote:Originally posted by hursty:Piracy should not be tolerated...just look what happened to long john silver,he lost a leg,and a eye
Arrrrrrrrrrrr the scurvey dogs....then they took his good name and put it on a fast food fish shop....that makes stupid commercials about square fish.

EDIT- you should sue them, I hear its all the rage.

EDIT(again)- Everyone who's anyone sues someone.

14.6.2007 10:49 #36

snige

Making a console as difficult to hack is music to a hackers ears. And tbo, most dont do it to play pirated games. They do it cos Sony said it cannot be done, which we all know is crap.

Plus, it's my console and I can do what I want to it. If SOny were that bothered then I'm sure they would stop the idiots smashing them in front of waiting people on release day ( he says sarcastically ).

Also piracy isn't making Sony, or anyone else loose money. I know of many people who have hacked 360's and all the others who simply wont buy the games anyway! If a console was impossible to hack, then sales of games wont go through the roof. And before you mention Dreamcast, ok that was hit hard by piracy, but it was so easy to play copied games on it that almost anyone could do it. I still here peoiple shocked that you can play copied games on a PSP.
Quite simply, the no of people with hacked consoles and games, are insignificant to the amount of legit players.

And besides Sony thinks it's gonna scare off these hackers by shouting and puffing their chests out!!?? Do me a favour!

15.6.2007 09:18 #37

Steve83

Quote:...anyone caught trying to use an exploit in an illegal manner.What about all of those people who are caught using hacks in a LEGAL manner? What happens to them?

Does this BS extend to things like cars? They run on complex proprietary operating systems, and there are plenty of companies out there selling tools to "hack" into those "gaming consoles" and modify how they operate, and even plenty of places to buy modchips for cars to make them REALLY wild.

So why aren't GM, Ford, Toyota, & the rest going after THOSE 'pirates'???

15.6.2007 13:09 #38

RNR1995

Excuse me, but don't these people PURCHASE these consoles?
Aren't they PROPERTY to be done with what ever the OWNER wishes??
Where do these corporations get off, seriously what's next Ford pursuing me for modding my on board computer??? AARRGGHHH I cannot stand big money infringing on freedom!

15.6.2007 14:12 #39

ZippyDSM

Dela
If they do not sue a unique disc system like the Game cube and DC they them selfs are setting them selfs up to be hacked, I have had a few games in my life that would not boot under nomral circumstance and for some I only used copies of that game because I did not want to damage the original, then add the stagnation of 50+$ mediocre games I use backups and "copies" as means to test a games worth.

Altho the best way to stick it tot eh man is buy used nothign like buying a new "$60" game for 25$ off ebay or else where it only takes 2 or 3 months for a game to bomb!

15.6.2007 16:16 #40

Daxsmoker

Dam if the Ps3 still hasnt been hack then wat else is there?

15.6.2007 20:40 #41

MUNKYEARS

ha like were all really that scared

16.6.2007 03:56 #42

rkbauer

Originally posted by RNR1995:Excuse me, but don't these people PURCHASE these consoles?
Aren't they PROPERTY to be done with what ever the OWNER wishes??
Where do these corporations get off, seriously what's next Ford pursuing me for modding my on board computer??? AARRGGHHH I cannot stand big money infringing on freedom!For Online Play, it is your console, and you can do what you want to it.. Offline, but the moment you take it online, you are able to have a lifetime ban for online.

For Pirating Games, which this article is about.. I think we all know it is against the law to rent a game, burn it, and play it.

Otherwise, you can mod your console, as long as you don't copy a disc, or take your console online.

16.6.2007 04:11 #43

mftbruce

please don't hack me baby. PS3 stands for...

16.6.2007 05:38 #44

BonScott1

Originally posted by snige:Making a console as difficult to hack is music to a hackers ears. And tbo, most dont do it to play pirated games. They do it cos Sony said it cannot be done, which we all know is crap.
That's the first thought I got when I read those lines from Sony.
Sony is giving hackers all the enthusiasm and fuel that they desire.

16.6.2007 08:59 #45

cyberv

Come on People they don't need hackers co'z the real hacker is just under the table they pay people to hack there console secretly, its a conspiracy theory. the moment they put out the console the secrets been out they just let it stay in the market for a while, then when sales fall down they put out the backup plan. Big companies don't like loosing money they always have a backup plan. Hackers and Companies alike they all get there profit.

18.6.2007 19:46 #46

borhan9

These are some really bad repercussions :) Ever heard of playing the pirated games while disconnected from the net connection :P

21.6.2007 14:39 #47

decent

Hello Sir ,
I wanted to know how many months hacker take to hack ps3 i am waiting because i wanted to play pirated disc on it so please any one give me hackers contact if somebuddy have thanks .

18.7.2007 04:06 #48

snige

18.7.2007 04:31 #49

ZippyDSM

18.7.2007 07:10 #50

emugamer

Originally posted by decent: Hello Sir ,
I wanted to know how many months hacker take to hack ps3 i am waiting because i wanted to play pirated disc on it so please any one give me hackers contact if somebuddy have thanks .

Email :decent_rehan09@hotmail.com Sony mole alert.....ROFL!

Quote:"Naturally, any use of an exploit on the system software does void the warranty on the PS3 system... Which could be a costly mistake to see if you can run an old SEGA CD game on it," said Karraker.noob alert....or just idiot alert. If someone is going to hack a $600 system, then the primary reason would be to play backup games that were made for that $600 system. Emulating an ancient system would probably be a Hard Drive homebrew afterthought. Heck, I didn't want to burn Sega CD discs to play on my modded XBOX, even if it could be done.

I have to say that duckNrun's comment about boosting sales could very well be a possibility. Once an official working firmware hack is released, consoles will start moving off the shelves IMO. I know I'll be getting one.

18.7.2007 08:28 #51

ZippyDSM

Quote:Originally posted by decent: Hello Sir ,
I wanted to know how many months hacker take to hack ps3 i am waiting because i wanted to play pirated disc on it so please any one give me hackers contact if somebuddy have thanks .

Email :decent_rehan09@hotmail.com Sony mole alert.....ROFL!

Quote:"Naturally, any use of an exploit on the system software does void the warranty on the PS3 system... Which could be a costly mistake to see if you can run an old SEGA CD game on it," said Karraker.noob alert....or just idiot alert. If someone is going to hack a $600 system, then the primary reason would be to play backup games that were made for that $600 system. Emulating an ancient system would probably be a Hard Drive homebrew afterthought. Heck, I didn't want to burn Sega CD discs to play on my modded XBOX, even if it could be done.

I have to say that duckNrun's comment about boosing sales could very well be a possibility. Once an official working firmware hack is released, consoles will start moving off the shelves IMO. I know I'll be getting one.because some 6$ Sega CD games are better than the 60$ PS3 games,same can be said abotu Neo geo roms on the Xbox,but befor we can go there theres a year or 2 of coding and beta testing to do so I can wait :P

I cant wait till they start making the games support the newest firmware that will be fun LOL

I hope they make a PSX/PS2 emu hack that adds more standard emulation features to PSX/PS2 games,save states and speed hacks would be so fun :X

18.7.2007 08:42 #52

hm1

Originally posted by duckNrun: Dont you all realize what this Sony message is REALLY about:

They are throwing down the gauntlet to the hackers IN THE HOPES that they will go out and BUY the ps3 to boost sales!

they aint worried about piracy or modding at all... what they ARE worried about is lagging sales, product sitting on shelves, reduced orders for more product and running out of propaganda to help give the false image that they are winnning the (name your war here).

The very nature of this letter from Sony gives the impression that this is a VERY BIG issue right now (which it is not) which gives the (false) impression that the ps3 is entrenched enough (it is not) for it to even be a big issue...

just more Sony propaganda!

lolTotally agree.

The PS3 is still not selling.

Ironically most people will buy one once they can figure out if it can be hacked.

At this moment in time, i may cross over to the Xbox

24.4.2008 13:54 #53

ZippyDSM

hm1
Odd...from what I have been reading its selling well enough,perhaps not as good as the WII or the easy break oven,but with prices coming down theres no reason why it wont do better.

The PS3s momentum is gaining but not snowballing yet, the WII has already snowballed into a freaking moon, I think the 360 is starting to lose ground.

All in all get a PS3 and 360 theres going to be enough lulls between them to need both or a WI.

24.4.2008 14:29 #54

Daxsmoker

well the ps3 problem was the price, but now ppl are buying the cheap version. As for xbox the 3 red light off death issue is wat slowed it down idk didnt they say it was a 60-66% rate of them doing that. And as for the wii smash bros and m-kart may being the only reason to buy one but for me the rest of the games dont have that much depth.

24.4.2008 14:35 #55

ZippyDSM

Originally posted by Daxsmoker: well the ps3 problem was the price, but now ppl are buying the cheap version. As for xbox the 3 red light off death issue is wat slowed it down idk didnt they say it was a 60-66% rate of them doing that. And as for the wii smash bros and m-kart may being the only reason to buy one but for me the rest of the games dont have that much depth.From what I have been reading into a solid 30% and maybe add it a extra 10 via refrub the "bukkake'd" units out.

If you are a traditional game you can't go wrong with the PC,360,PS3 being your main system and then backing up with one of the other, PC/PS3 seems to have the best spread and options 360/PS3 the 2nd PC/360 redundant.

I like the wii and all but its needs 10 more games I want and 100$ off the asking price to be worth my money :P

24.4.2008 15:07 #56

iluvendo

Quote:Originally posted by hursty: Piracy should not be tolerated...just look what happened to long john silver,he lost a leg,and a eye
Quote:Arrrrrrrrrrrr the scurvey dogs....then they took his good name and put it on a fast food fish shop.
Their fish isn't even any good !!!

24.4.2008 15:16 #57

ZippyDSM

Quote:Quote:Originally posted by hursty: Piracy should not be tolerated...just look what happened to long john silver,he lost a leg,and a eye
Quote:Arrrrrrrrrrrr the scurvey dogs....then they took his good name and put it on a fast food fish shop.
Their fish isn't even any good !!!We should rally Me'hearties and put down all those that sell bad fish.......

24.4.2008 15:22 #58

CKhaleel

Originally posted by hm1: Originally posted by duckNrun: Dont you all realize what this Sony message is REALLY about:

They are throwing down the gauntlet to the hackers IN THE HOPES that they will go out and BUY the ps3 to boost sales!

they aint worried about piracy or modding at all... what they ARE worried about is lagging sales, product sitting on shelves, reduced orders for more product and running out of propaganda to help give the false image that they are winnning the (name your war here).

The very nature of this letter from Sony gives the impression that this is a VERY BIG issue right now (which it is not) which gives the (false) impression that the ps3 is entrenched enough (it is not) for it to even be a big issue...

just more Sony propaganda!

lolTotally agree.

The PS3 is still not selling.

Ironically most people will buy one once they can figure out if it can be hacked.

At this moment in time, i may cross over to the Xbox
Dude, WTF did you bump a year old thread?

evolmindz: yeah ur still paying to dl the games genius ;)

SDF_GR: Hey Einstein do you even know the colour of the PS3?
Well...let'a say that it isn't white and doesnt wearing any red rings.

24.4.2008 15:24 #59

Daxsmoker

im glad i got a 60gb ps3 :)but it aint played as much as my pc and modded ps2.
my wii on the other hand is still collecting dust
even after Smash bros.
but maybe after GTA i will be playing the 5hit out of my ps3!

24.4.2008 17:18 #60

Oner

Originally posted by hm1: The PS3 is still not selling.

Ironically most people will buy one once they can figure out if it can be hacked.

At this moment in time, i may cross over to the Xbox
Do you have any evidence to support that claim? Here is some information that is in total stark contrast to what you said.

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=P...3=All&weeks=400

Looks like the PS3 is doing fine....Here is another one

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/04/18/...n_sales_double/

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24.4.2008 20:06 #61

ZippyDSM

Originally posted by Oner: Originally posted by hm1: The PS3 is still not selling.

Ironically most people will buy one once they can figure out if it can be hacked.

At this moment in time, i may cross over to the Xbox
Do you have any evidence to support that claim? Here is some information that is in total stark contrast to what you said.

http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunch.php?cons1=P...3=All&weeks=400

Looks like the PS3 is doing fine....Here is another one

" target="_blank">http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/04/18/...double/

your sig is 8 lines.... 10 if you count the spaces...wait uuu be mod...iI need to wake up and find mew brains ><

For all the console/game fanboys out their.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles...Console-Rundown
Oh god I can't stop laughing!!!
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24.4.2008 20:13 #62

hoip

good on ya sony, the reason y is wii is so successful is becoz the noobs at nintendo allowed it to be hacked so easily, boosting sales. seriousli the wii suxs! the onli good game was zelda

24.4.2008 20:18 #63

ZippyDSM

Originally posted by hoip: good on ya sony, the reason y is wii is so successful is becoz the noobs at nintendo allowed it to be hacked so easily, boosting sales. seriousli the wii suxs! the onli good game was zeldasince the 360 is held together with duck tape to keep from falling apart I would say it sucks more..... :P

24.4.2008 20:20 #64

Oner

Originally posted by ZippyDSM: your sig is 8 lines.... 10 if you count the spaces...wait uuu be mod...iI need to wake up and find mew brains ><Thanks for reminding me I have been wanting to fix it but get side tracked with all the "fixins" needing to be addressed every time I get here!

25.4.2008 10:13 #65

ZippyDSM

Originally posted by Oner: Originally posted by ZippyDSM: your sig is 8 lines.... 10 if you count the spaces...wait uuu be mod...iI need to wake up and find mew brains ><Thanks for reminding me I have been wanting to fix it but get side tracked with all the "fixins" needing to be addressed every time I get here!well if you are a mod you should be given 3 personal lines and 4 forum lines for rules and crap, or hell double what normal users get, mods need rule links, half wit..er...wake... posting FTW! should have though dduuurrr mods need rule lines ><

For all the console/game fanboys out their.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles...Console-Rundown
Oh god I can't stop laughing!!!
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And for the format nazi's I bring you HHD DVVD BVD's!!

25.4.2008 10:16 #66

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