Rumor that won't go away: Sony working on hack-proof PS3?

First reported by the relatively unknown blog EverythingHQ, Sony may be creating a new model of the PlayStation 3, one that is 'hack-proof.'

Citing "sources," the blog says the company is looking into creating a model of the console that cannot be hacked to run homebrew, Linux or pirated games, and will drop the price of current models.

Despite multiple custom firmwares being developed for the console (at least for those with firmware 3.55), the site says Sony began development on the 'hack-proof' PS3 after "Killzone 3" was leaked earlier this month.

As an added 'incentive' to purchase the new console, Sony will add a 300GB HDD, and sell the console for $300 USD.

Sony is currently in a legal battle against George 'Geohot' Hotz and other PS3 custom firmware writers, although the case may take months as Hotz has received significant donations from the community and plans to fight the suit.

Written by: Andre Yoskowitz @ 24 Feb 2011 21:19

20TONS

If it's made by humans it can be cracked by humans. Good luck on that one Sony.

24.2.2011 21:40 #1

KillerBug

Nothing is hack proof...sony had a good run with the ps3, but only because of linux. Now they think that they are security gods...and they are not.

24.2.2011 21:49 #2

SDF_GR

Its not just that , its some short of R&D for them IMO.
They learning.
If they eventually succeed, imagine how much money a hackproof system/software/Hardware will bring in.
However, I dont think sony is just after PS3/PS4/NGP etc, if they found a way to lock for real a gaming console they will apply it in more devices.
but Thats just me making some thoughts.

24.2.2011 21:54 #3

xaznboitx

The good thing about people hacking is that Sony going to create new model and would be price drop ;) Now I can get a PS3..

I don't get why Sony doesn't also go after people playing online with games they pirated as well? I read that Sony just banned them but not the PS3 mac address and to get back online you can create another account on the same console.

24.2.2011 22:22 #4

KillerBug

I have their new marketing slogan: "It only does two things"

24.2.2011 23:45 #5

Jeffrey_P

Who cares?
I would never purchase a Sony or Apple product.

Sony was a big proponent of fair use during the Beta/VHS days.
Now it's just dollars and cents that means the most to powers at be who probably need somebody to program their DVR's.
Jeff

Cars, Guitars & Radiation.

24.2.2011 23:57 #6

i am knerdy (unverified)

when will the hack be out for this?

25.2.2011 01:09 #7

xtago

Well seeing the hacks only come from people leaking Sony's firmware code, I would assume they could make an un-hackable PS3.

Even the hackers say Sony need to make a new PS3 design to fully secure it again.

25.2.2011 06:36 #8

molsen

I see this as cat and mouse. If $ony left the Linux in, most of the publicity would really not have come into light. Now everyone is out to crack PS3 and get hacked software. I own a PS3, but I'm not that involved with it and have no interest in getting with a cracked edition. I wish people that want to crack well, as $ony is going to play a stupid game.

25.2.2011 07:43 #9

jam_k

Originally posted by KillerBug: I have their new marketing slogan: "It only does two things" Double thumbs up on this one : )

I'm going to help spread the new slogan.

25.2.2011 09:47 #10

osa444

maybe sony look in my country.every stores run jailbreak(except iam).even just a hole,make every store spitit up?

25.2.2011 09:47 #11

Bozobub

Well, if Sony had used proper crypto-keys, they wouldn't be in this mess in the 1st place. All they really need to do is make a proper set, and it's still pretty much uncrackable for a good long time.

Of course, to make this work for *all* PS3s, they'd have to have some kind of incentivized exchange program, to get all the old models back, and then proceed to ban each and every old PS3 MAC from online play. Good luck with THAT, Sony... =3

Knowing those money-grubbing idiots, they'll penalize the public by making them pay for some sort of bs "upgrade" that merely implements the new keys.

25.2.2011 10:31 #12

Interestx

Why does Sony think adding a bigger hard drive is much incentive to anyone?
I thought one of the big deals about PS3 was the easy (and cheap) upgrade of the hard drive anyways?

25.2.2011 11:01 #13

dEwMe

WOW....No way to get it hacked quicker than to say it's unhackable...ROFL!

Just my $0.02,

dEwMe

25.2.2011 11:14 #14

Brian0423

I remember the story of the american government buying 2000 ps3's before the slim ones came out strictly for jailbreaking them and linking them together to run linux since using the ps3s were cheaper than buying the parts seperatly.

25.2.2011 11:24 #15

cart0181

Originally posted by KillerBug: I have their new marketing slogan: "It only does two things" Hello? It is only SUPPOSED to play games and movies. It's the fools with way to much time on their hands that feel inclined to spend hundreds of hours trying to make a $300 game console into an ice cube maker. Yes, I say fools, because they can't think of a better way to spend their time.

25.2.2011 11:28 #16

elbald90

Originally posted by dEwMe: WOW....No way to get it hacked quicker than to say it's unhackable...ROFL!
my thoughts exactly ... the proverbial red flag

25.2.2011 11:53 #17

DXR88

the only way to make something unhackable is for it not to be in the owners possession.

1)PS5 is only available to play from 6:00AM to 5:00PM as that is the time there turned on from are underground security bunker.

2)You may not play the PS5 for more than an hour, before a mandatory break is issued. failure to comply will result in termination from the PhatSodNetwork.

3) you may not Submerge the Playstation Stream Controller,You may not eat Cheetos Around the PSC, you may not look at the PSC, you may not throw the PSC, you may Not talk around the PCS, you may not scratch around the PSC, You may not press the start button On the PCS(we'll tell you when to start),You may not Sell the PSC(Exempt all personal with a 5 million dollar Official Sony Sellers license) You May not Resell the PCS At all Period.

Failure to comply with the 3 simple Fun Sony rules will result in the (termination of your job, Your car, Your Pet, and Your house.)(A fine Of 999 Billion will also be issue's, if you cannot pay the fine we will take you to a Sony Labor Camp of are choosing Where you will work till we decree you've paid off the above amount.).

have fun and enjoy PlayStation 5

25.2.2011 14:21 #18

jookycola

Quote:xaznboitx

The good thing about people hacking is that Sony going to create new model and would be price drop ;) Now I can get a PS3.. Dude seriously? They aren't $600 anymore if you can't afford one now then don't bother.

25.2.2011 15:05 #19

Bozobub

Originally posted by cart0181: Originally posted by KillerBug: I have their new marketing slogan: "It only does two things" Hello? It is only SUPPOSED to play games and movies. It's the fools with way to much time on their hands that feel inclined to spend hundreds of hours trying to make a $300 game console into an ice cube maker. Yes, I say fools, because they can't think of a better way to spend their time. Hello? It was sold to do far more than that, considering "OtherOS" was an original feature. The PS3 is a 50 MFLOP (double precision) to 200 MFLOP (single precision), 9-core (1 main core that handles everyday tasks such as I/O, 8 co-processors that are more general-purpose), insanely powerful Linux machine for $300, that also includes advanced graphics and sound capabilities. How is it difficult to understand that anyone would want to exploit the inherent potential there? I defy you to find a more powerful computer for less cost anywhere.

25.2.2011 15:14 #20

mike.m

Good for Sony. I wish Micro$haft will do the same with the Xbox 360. I've counted at least 2-3 times where it was obvious a player had hacked the game.

25.2.2011 19:06 #21

xnonsuchx

Originally posted by Brian0423: I remember the story of the american government buying 2000 ps3's before the slim ones came out strictly for jailbreaking them and linking them together to run linux since using the ps3s were cheaper than buying the parts seperatly.
1700 160GB PS3s to add to a 316 PS3 cluster the USAF already had for a few years. Pre-slim PS3s don't need to be jailbroken to run Linux (unless it's been upgraded to FW 3.21 or higher, which these wouldn't have).

28.2.2011 03:44 #22

cart0181

Originally posted by Bozobub: Originally posted by cart0181: Originally posted by KillerBug: I have their new marketing slogan: "It only does two things" Hello? It is only SUPPOSED to play games and movies. It's the fools with way to much time on their hands that feel inclined to spend hundreds of hours trying to make a $300 game console into an ice cube maker. Yes, I say fools, because they can't think of a better way to spend their time. Hello? It was sold to do far more than that, considering "OtherOS" was an original feature. The PS3 is a 50 MFLOP (double precision) to 200 MFLOP (single precision), 9-core (1 main core that handles everyday tasks such as I/O, 8 co-processors that are more general-purpose), insanely powerful Linux machine for $300, that also includes advanced graphics and sound capabilities. How is it difficult to understand that anyone would want to exploit the inherent potential there? I defy you to find a more powerful computer for less cost anywhere. Can you show me that in writing? (from Sony literature) What exactly was Sony promising the "OtherOS" feature would do for the end user?

28.2.2011 13:20 #23

Bozobub

Irrelevant. Sony promised the feature itself, and quibble as you like, OtherOS simply offered the ability to run a different, open OS on the Cell architecture, with all the power and flexibility that implies. If you actually think Linux is useless, well, you're flat wrong, and a good percentage of the world would agree.

As to "showing it in writing", Sony did that themselves, in endless print and video ad copy for the system. I do not feel the necessity to regurgitate their marketing copy; go find it yourself; hell, just look at one of the original systems' box! Simply put, Sony marketed OtherOS as a (quite useful) feature and selling point, then removed it on a whim. While YOU may find no use for the feature, many people do, and YOUR quibbles are quite suspect, since by your own admission, you have no comprehension of the feature at all, or any use for it.

Now, if Sony had decided to only not include the feature in new versions, but didn't remove it from older systems (as was initially the case), that's short-sighted but quite legitimate. But removing a feature that many people originally bought the system for, without any recourse, is not only unfair, it's quite obviously foolish; they wouldn't have this problem with CFW right now if they hadn't been poons about it.

Are you serious, cart0181, or being intentionally obtuse? While you may have enough money to buy a PC + game console, many people don't. Furthermore, $300 is an excellent price for such a powerful computer (games or no); you think people who use it that way are fools..? Sounds like yer mommy buys all your hardware for you, bub. It's the absolute cheapest way to build a supercomputer, as well, and the US gov't. thinks so too.

Sorry, but you really out to inform yourself before crapping all over something you know nothing about; you only end up looking like a fool and pawn of big corporations, at best, and an immature moron at worst.

28.2.2011 14:29 #24

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